How do you view Froch's comments about Andre Ward

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  1. Westy78

    Westy78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ward will never KO him so its not really a gamble fighting him. If he lands right he would KO ward, but ward is a good boxer so chances of catching him are slim
     
  2. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is your arse a bit sore after your Froch Groves prediction ?
     
  3. Solarse

    Solarse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You have asked posters to kill themselves in the past........very impressive
     
  4. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then do it now, cos your pissing in the wind and fabricating stories.

    Given your multiple personalities, its completely understandable.

    Your mother probably was/is a lovely woman, what a shame she had to endure a **** like you for a son.
     
  5. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Rumour has it his retire
     
  6. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Who do you think ward will fight next
     
  7. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Personally if i was froch i would go for the ward fight...the presures off. Pretty much everyone says he cant win it. I ve only ever seen the first 5 rounds of the fight the other week, might not give an accurate account of it. But after hearing people say he was totally outclassed, he took a beating etc etc and talking about it like their was no hope in the world of even troubling ward i was surprised watching the first 5 rounds.

    He was outclassed at times but jermaine taylor outclassed him for the first 3 rounds until froch fought his way back into it...all the way up to the twelfe. George groves outclassed him in th first fight for most of it until froch fought his way back into it and forced the stoppage. I know that ward is a different league to these two...but looking at it saying ward's had a lay off...there's nothing really out there for him anyway...froch is off the back of a big win and looked every bit as good as he ever has, why not approach ward with a **** load of money to get him over.

    He spoke about robbery's and that in the past, give him nuetral judges etc...but with last weeks success story with the boxing...why cant we attract top name fighters over here. I can see the guys with a big market value not needing it...but ward's struggling a bit with it. When was number one and number 2 in the division not a marketable fight?? When you continually tell people that ward is boring etc etc etc. Thats an easily marketable fight.

    If legacy's as important to froch as he likes to make out...thats the fight he should be going for. Understand the chavez fight because he has a huge market but realistically how much money are you going to be seeing from that? It's like floyd he takes 50 million and gives you 2 lol. Any warrior out there would be saying **** it i want a rematch with ward...why not approach ward and offer him a genuinely good deal...if he stuck to his guns and said he wouldn't fight here because of robberies, or the legal battles stopped it from happening...fair enough. But to just use these things as excuses why the fight wont happen because it suits your aganda again contradicts the warrior image for me.

    A hostile nottinham or wherever, a froch coming off a big win looking good doing it, a froch with nothing to lose who's always at least dangerous even when he's outclassed, a ward with a long lay off, in the middle of legal battles, never really travelled before outside the US...the fights crying out to be made.

    Every other avenue doesn't even look as good...degale...too early, kessler 3...best days well behind him, chavez...it's an odd one outside of the money/vegas experience which i ve never really heard froch talk about until the chavez one came up, also no one really ever mentioned chavez jnr as an opponent before froch/hearn mentioned him recently.

    It's all very well saying he's got to make good money for the retirement fund...but ****ing hell how much do you need...can anyone clarify how much froch would get for a chavez fight?? i genuinely dont think they'll see that much of the overall takings...as opposed to a ward fight where there's surely a good 3/4/5 million plus in it probably les than chavez but by how much...i say not much. After clearing about 10 ****ing mill for a groves fight we shouldn't be justifying froch needing money for a retirement fund.
     
  8. Kahuna

    Kahuna Active Member Full Member

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    He should fight Ward after his Vegas fight but it should be in Nottingham. Maybe even the City Ground.
     
  9. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Ward doesn't leave Oakland never mind actually crossing the Atlantic.
     
  10. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post :good
     
  11. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    Leave it mate, you really are talking utter $hite here, you even say you've only seen the first 5 rounds of the Ward fight! FFS, and you think you have some sort of worthwhile critique to post on Froch........unbelievable.

    The massive difference between the clear politics, ducking and dodging/career management that every boxer/team does and Carl Frochs legit route through the 168lb division is as clear as day to everybody but you it seems.

    Bringing Ward to Nottingham!?!? Ridiculous. A fu¢king team of wild horses can't drag him outside the US. YDKSABaaaaahxin.

    Oh and as for the comments on 'warrior bravery', you should know that bravery doesn't come in the absence of fear but in the overcoming of it. I believe Cus D'Amato said "The only difference between the hero and the coward is what they do." i.e. not how they feel.

    Like I've aid before, would you take on a job twice as hard for 1/4 of the pay????? NO. Then why should Carl give Ward a payday his inactivity and whining doesn't deserve instead of a Vegas mega-fight?:tired
     
  12. samwbr

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    tbf he did fight Froch in Atlantic City, away from home in his mind.
     
  13. Barry Smith

    Barry Smith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cant blame Ward for not wanting to fight here, if you manage survive the paid off ref jumping in and robbing you, then the paid off judges will shaft you anyway.
     
  14. ant-man

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    If you can't say anything sensible best say nothing. :good
     
  15. Barry Smith

    Barry Smith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah that's fight, British refs never prematurely stop fights to favor the home fighter and judges are nothing but fair.:patsch