The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    He ducked Maracheato' for the safer fight using money and the belt as the excuse ..In hindsight that fight didn't do much to elevate his legacy !
     
  2. The Shockmaster

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    its not spin..it came out of arums mouth....go back and read the fat dan article

    the spin came after floyd left....it was arum spinning that floyd was scared of margarito because floyd opted out and left him.....arum had previously said floyd agreed to fight margarito for 8 mil but wanted 10 mil for two other fights down the line(which were outlined in the contract proposal as hatton and cotto)
     
  3. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People forget that boxing is a business and quite often people select the easier, more lucrative challenges. If PBF did just that then that's business, why create a thread to spin it so he looks better?
     
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    you really think money was an "excuse"?

    so hes offered 8 mil for margarito.....and theres a contract extension that outlines his next fights after that as hatton/cotto...and bob offers him less guaranteed money for those two fights?....how is a hatton/cotto fight worth less guaranteed money than margs?....i cant really fathom that and nobody with a sense of anything should be able to
     
  5. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont know enough to question the accuracy of that particular article, Ill just say that Fat Dan is an amazing journalist. Amazimg because he still has a job.
     
  6. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All you do is spew out the same old ****. He said she said blah blah blah PBF is blameless etc. Seldom any links, facts. Just the suppositions of a rambling idiot.

    If you want some respect at least post links to backup your so-called 'facts'.
     
  7. The Shockmaster

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    floyd agreed to fight margarito....for 8 mil....thats not a spin.....arum said it himself.....he said floyd wanted 10 mil each for his next two fights which were outlined as cotto and hatton....arum only offered him 7 each.....thats lowball.....and makes 0 sense since they are both bigger names/draws.....

    arum either lowballed him on purpose because he thought floyd was gonna leave him anyway....or hes just plain stingy

    arum said "i gave him an offer that was liveable...but he expects too much".....did he really expect too much? considering he made like 25 mil for the hatton fight when he did it on his own?
     
  8. markclow

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    Links or stfu.
     
  9. The Shockmaster

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    i cant post links....tell you what google "dan rafael ....mayweather turns down 8 mil to fight margarito"...and read the article...its there...**** it....ill copy and paste it for you


    Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.

    According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.

    "I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."

    Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.

    "Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.

    "We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."

    With Aug. 12 no longer set aside for a Mayweather fight, Arum said he will use the date to feature one of his other stars, heavyweight titlist Hasim Rahman, in a mandatory title defense against Oleg Maskaev on HBO PPV.

    That bout, a rematch of Maskaev's 1999 knockout victory, took on greater significance last weekend in the wake of Wladimir Klitschko's title-winning knockout of Chris Byrd in Germany.

    The reason: Among the four recognized heavyweight title holders, Klitschko became the third from a former Soviet republic to beat an American to win a belt, leaving Rahman as the lone American heavyweight champion and Maskaev poised to give Eastern Europe a sweep of the titles in boxing's marquee division.

    Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

    "We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."

    Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

    The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

    Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

    Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

    "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

    Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

    Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

    The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

    Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

    "I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

    Instead, Arum is turning his attention to the Rahman-Maskaev fight.

    Arum said that he and Maskaev representative Dennis Rappaport are about $300,000 apart on making a deal. If they don't finalize terms, the WBC will hold a purse bid May 1 in Mexico City.

    But Arum is confident they will make the deal.

    "We're very close," he said. "It will take another day to work it out."

    Arum said he is already making arrangements to announce the fight at a news conference in New York on May 10. He added that the fight would take place at either Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., or at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.

    Arum said Margarito could wind up on the Rahman-Maskaev card in the co-feature.

    "But it's tentative," Arum said. "If Mayweather decides to fight in September or October, and Margarito could still be a candidate, I want him to be flexible."


    look at arum...he was all talking nice "oh the split is cool....we intend to get back together....floyd said hed take the 8 mil for the margarito fight"......

    when they didnt get back together(cause floyd wanted oscar)....arum started spitting his bull**** about floyd being scared of margarito
     
  10. markclow

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    You have the mind of a vegetable.
     
  11. The Shockmaster

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    no i dont....you just dont like what im saying....or cant comprehend it....what floyd did was turn down a 1 fight deal to fight margarito without future guarantees....if bob had offered 10 mil for cotto/hatton fights after that he prob could have had a deal and the margs fight might have come off.....but well never know cause bob lowballed him

    i do love it though...when guys make comments like this...about others peoples minds....when other people can actually think and remember what actually happened....as opposed to changing facts/truths to fit their argument....
     
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    Finally some FACTS.
     
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    its hilarious how bob basically said he wanted the margarito fight.....but basically made floyd a **** offer on a contract extension he called "liveable"........what bob really wanted was this fight on a 1 fight deal before floyd left him for good....in hopes that margs would come in and ruin him......and floyd said "screw...ill go get oscar and hatton on my own then"

    then bob starts screaming "oh hes so scared of tony" everywhere and anywhere.......meanwhile floyd gets oscar and hatton and banks heavily....and you wonder why bobs so bitter with floyd and wont let him near pac
     
  15. The Shockmaster

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    i cut and pasted the article for you dummy

    at least now you can read through it and, if you arent stupid, you can see what bob was really up to and what his agenda has been
     
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