So Cotto is a lineal champ at middleweight?

sorry, but i'm not.

Golovkin became full WBA after Geale wouldn't fight him. i never mentioned anything about being "super WBA". i mean how could he be, Golovkin was the only fighter to hold any sort of WBA belt at the time.

 

You can't send a contract when you can't(or won't) fight.
Again I ask: Who(in your opinion) does Golovkin have to beat to get a shot at the lineal MW title?
Confirm your idiot status and say Golovkin has to beat p4p#2 undisputed SMW champ Andre Ward before he can get a shot at the lineal MW title.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uJZs2A4qYM

 

Golovkin was elevated to regular champion before the fight with Tapia. The Tapia fight was his first defense. IIRC, the WBA moved Sturm to Super champion (because Sturm didn't want to fight Golovkin) and simultaneously elevated the interim champion at the time (Golovkin) to regular champion.

 

those less talented fighters were making money because they had offers and options to fight the bigger fights. Golvkin has never had those options.

so it's very much a bit different.

but you continue to make comments like you did do like it's Golovkins fault he's not getting the fights he wants.

 

Nonito didn't Address the issue. he made that comment to a completely different post. it had nothing to do with the post that you or i made to each other.

but i find it funny that you're now using other posters to make a stand for you, because you're clearly too weak and stupid to do it yourself.

congrats on that. :good

 

I think you quite ******ed. I did not say Golovkin have to fight the supper middleweight champ in order to get a middleweight title short. What I said was, since he claimed that no one is willing to fight him and he has made known that he is willing to fight anyone from 154 to 175 and the 168 pound champion is interested in fighting him. Why doesn't he take the fight?
Do you lack reading compression or something?
I think Ward have cleared out the misconception that he can't fight due to promotional issues. There an article on this website were Ward addressed this issue of guys using the excuse of "promotion problems" to dock him.

As for who should Golovkin fight to get a title short? Well it is well documented that Sergio's manager had agreed to make a fight with Golovkin right after beating Cotto.

 

Kessler made an offer to Ward, but his side turned it down.

Goosen is going to make life much more difficult for Andre. he isn't going to try and be straight forward with fight offers, even if the offers are damn good. he doesn't want Ward fighting and making money by the looks of things.

 

This isn't the first time that something like this has happened.

* Hagler was considered the best in the division when Corro, Antuofermo, and Minter were the lineal champions in the late 70's

* Gene Fullmer was considered to a superior fighter to Paul Pender when the latter held the world middleweight championship in the early 60's.

* LaMotta and Cerdan were considered to be superior fighters to Graziano and Zale were playing hot potato with the title. Along the same lines, Robinson was considered to the uncrowned middleweight champion before he met and defeated LaMotta for the final time.

* Harry Greb was the number one guy at middleweight for a few years before he won the middleweight championship. Les Darcy was considered to be vastly superior to the lineal champion during the time he was active.

So, this isn't the first time that the number one guy in the division isn't the champion. Won't be the last time this happens, either.

 

Yet, Ward still sits on the shelf with no news of his next fight.
As for anything that team Martinez says, do you remember when it was a big deal that Cotto was walking to the ring second?
Remember how that was all bull****?
Sampson Lewkowicz said that Golovkin needs to beat a fighter like Curtis Stevens to get a shot at Sergio.
Apparently, beating Curtis Stevens is good enough for Sampson but Golovkin has to beat Andre Ward before he's ready to get a shot at the lineal MW title.

 

You're a ******. Thats exactly what Nonito addressed.
We were talking about how Golovkin got his hand on martinez's belt.

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Originally Posted by assasin View Post
wrong again, Buster.

Golovkin was awarded the full WBA because he was continuously avoided.

the WBA told both Geale and Sturm that the winner had a certain amount of time in which to defend the belt. the winner, Geale, didn't want to know at the time because he was busy making a fight against a dud going by the name of Anthony Mundine.

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I love when people try to be sarcastic in telling people they are wrong, when they are in fact wrong themselves.

Golovkin won a vacant interim WBA title over Milton Nunez.

His very next fight, against Nilson Tapia, was contested for the full WBA title (well, sort of, as the WBA had 2 "actual" champions).

Both of those fights were in 2010.

There was no elevating or promoting of a title because he couldn't get any fights from being avoided. No. That's a load of BS... He was hand wrapped fights that allowed him to get an (entirely bogus) full WBA title.

His minor IBO belt was won from KO'ing Lajuan Simon. However, it too was vacant.

 

Show proof of the offer or shut the **** up.

 

You're ******. Fock does this have to do with the conversation. Now that I have totally destroyed you argument, you're bring up an irrelevant incident unrelated to the conversation.

Seriouly you lack reading comprehension. I didn't say Golovkin had to beat the supper middleweight champ in order to fight for the middle championship. Read my last response to you you idiot

 

If you want to take anything Team Martinez says seriously, that's on you.
They just lied to the public and made a big deal over who was walking out first and second, when it was all just bull**** to sell a sham of a fight.

That's what the "Fock" it has to do with the conversation.
They were never going to fight Golovkin and after Saturday it should be clear to everyone why they didn't want it with GGG.

I don't expect you to understand it though. You think Golovkin has to beat the p4p#2, undisputed champ @168lbs before he can get a shot at the lineal title in his own division.

A fighter who hasn't "done enough" to earn a shot at the lineal title in his own division has done enough to fight the #2 p4p undisputed champ in the next division.:rofl
Again, I'm asking you. Who(in your opinion) does Golovkin have to beat to get a shot at the lineal MW title @160lbs?

 

You know, You're "special":hi:

 

Again, I'm asking you. Who(in your opinion) does Golovkin have to beat to get a shot at the lineal MW title @160lbs?