How does Lomachenko Beat the more talented GRJ??

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  1. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gray Russell is on his way to stardom even though his defeat of this amateur Loma is really so spectacular or significant.
    Saildo isn't anything special and even though he was a minor champion has no where the skills of a Gray Russell.
    That an average fighter like Saildo defeated amateur Loma just goes to show that no only is Loma and amateur, but that he is really nothing special in the way of talent.

    Loma is really the one taking a huge step up and will his ****** ass will take a real ass whipping as a result of his being pushed to far and too fast by Russian Jewish Mafia handlers.

    GRJ TKO 6
     
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  2. HurricanesR1

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    Russell has been protected for a reason. Loma takes him to school.
     
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  3. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Russell is definitely a promising talent but he's untested.....Loma is his first real test and Jr hasn't been in there with anyone like this kid. Both will be facing stiff comp but Loma faced Salido who is a step up from Gary in my opinion. Loma lost but he did a LOT better than I expected. There's no way a kid with only 1 pro fight beats a vet like Solido but he almost won.
     
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  4. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Possible.... But highly unlikely. Jr is talented but being brought along extra slow for a reason. This step up is necessary for Russell who up to this point hasn't faced anyone that resembles a step up. Russell in with Solido would have looked a lot less competitive....which is why Gary and his team never sought after a fight with the grizzly vet.
     
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  5. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so what if russell loses? is he exposed? does sweetsciwhatever disappear? does he simply move on to dump on the next white fighter who is promising?
     
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  6. FloatingGhost

    FloatingGhost Some guy Full Member

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    Russel jr suuuuucks. N lomenchenko is a spoiled fukk. Hope cole refs it and the roof directly over the ring caves in on all 3 of them.
     
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  7. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    What's your definition of spoiled?

    I think fighting g terrible opposition on your way to a world title shot is a lot more spoiled than having the balls to want to fight for a world title in the second fight
     
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  8. Beatdaddy

    Beatdaddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First of all, I'm confused about how Loma, who is one of the best amateur boxers to lace up the gloves, is all hype. He's obviously an extremely talented boxer. That's not hype.

    Second of all, we can't base our opinion of Loma solely on the Salido fight. That was literally a worst case scenario for Loma: much bigger man, horrible style matchup and blind referring, all while Loma was still transitioning stamina-wise from 3 or 4-round fights to 12-round fights. For these reasons, he looked average, but make no mistake he's anything but average. I think he and his team were foolish to take that fight, but being beat so early in his pro career might turn out to be the best thing for him. Sometimes having your ego kicked to **** can be a good thing.

    I'd take Loma in this fight, if I had to bet on it, but Loma has been moved into my "Wait-n-See" box as far as gambling is concerned. I have a lot of questions that need answering before I stake money on him. GRJ definitely is a live underdog and many things could go wrong for Loma. I's say the odds makers have this fight correctly set with all of the variables that are up in the air. It's going to be an interesting fight. I can't wait see it. I'll be keeping my wallet firmly in my pocket for this one.
     
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  9. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He hasn't even fought one 12 round fight. GRJ is inexperienced as a pro and is about to get exposed. Make sure you hang around.
     
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  10. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fact is far too much hype is being placed on Loma's 4 round head geared, amateur gloved extra long termed career.
    In his first Pro fight he fought an opponent who looked exactly like all of Russell's previous opponents. He won by TKO, and GRJ would have also.
    Granted, Saildo was a different style of fighter than Russell has fought, being heavier and more experienced. Still in my eyes Saildo is on the level of a featherweight version of John Ruiz, but less skilled. His win over Loma was solely due to Loma's amateur style and lack of experience and ability to deploy a viable game plan.
    Had Russell fought Saildo, his jab would have kept Saildo on the outside and his counterpunching would have punished Saildo everytime he attempted to rush in. I see Russell winning by stopping Saildo due to an accumulation of punches, and i have him stopping Loma due to the same.

    Against Saildo, Loma used no jab. When Saildo bullyed his way inside Loma used no effective counterpunching. Loma has little to no head movement and has absolutely no inside game.

    Loma has far less handspeed than Russell, does not jab as well as Russell, lacks Russell's combination punching, does not punch as accurately, and definitely lacks professional experience.
    People spread rumors that Russell has a weak chin, but the fact is no one knows what kind of chin Loma has since he only has 2 pro fights. His chin will definitely be chin checked by Russell.

    Russell TKO 6
     
    SweetSciGuru, Jun 11, 2014
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  11. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Russell ain't koing Loma LMAO.
     
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  12. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, I meant that Russell is 2-3 times more talented than Loma.

    Many people wish Loma was as talented, by wishing and hopeful thinking isn't enough to make it so.
    Anyone with eyes can plainly see that Russell is the more talented of the two.
     
    SweetSciGuru, Jun 11, 2014
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  13. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry Buddy, but this isn't about the amateurs. This is the Pros baby, and Loma is a Pro hype and very likely, an empty can.
    The only reason Loma has been in the news in his 2nd Pro fight is because Arum was able to use Boxing politics to push an amateur in front of my worthy contenders to get an undeserved title shot. The amateur lost making him 1-1, yet he is pushed to the front of the line yet again to get another title shot after coming off a loss.
    Even truely gifted boxers like SRL and Ali didn't get this kind of hype where they were gifted title shots in their 2 and 3rd pro fights.
    Loma, who is one of the best amateur boxers to lace up the gloves, is all hype.
    GRJ TKO6
     
    SweetSciGuru, Jun 12, 2014
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  14. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It certainly not looking good if Lomachenko loses this. No matter how competive loss it might be. Loma would be 1-2 on pro record.:yikes:lol:
    Lomachenko is in at weird situtiation.
     
    MaliBua, Jun 12, 2014
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  15. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah Picking Lomachenko to win this fight but if he loses why would any of the other top contenders risk losing to a skilled fighter who's record is 1-2.

    They could just bring up his record and state why should they fight him.
     
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