Sonny Liston - Ernie Terrell Exhibition

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnUQ5tRxnrQ

    Check out from 0:08-0:12 seconds, fantastic head movement from Liston. Terrell was 6'6 and had one of the best jabs of the era. I think this sequence here shows Liston would have been a hurdle for the super heavyweights of later eras to land their jabs consistently on Liston. Not to mention, Liston had an 84" reach, and a great left jab.
     
  2. BrutalForeman

    BrutalForeman Active Member Full Member

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    Liston is the most underrated Heavyweight by far. He had the tools to be the GOAT. Prime Liston eats Clay alive.
     
  3. grumpy old man

    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali sure ate Terrell alive.

    "What's my name?" BANG!

    "What's my name?" BANG!

    "What's my name?" BANG! BANG! BANG!
     
  4. BrutalForeman

    BrutalForeman Active Member Full Member

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    I wouldnt ever bet agsinst a prime and motivated Night Train. Bad idea. And if someone chimes in that he was too slow thats nonsense. Floyd Patterson was an ultra fast heavy and Sonny kicked his ass twice.
     
  5. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Sonny is taking a lot of shots there. I do not see him or any slugger prime vs. prime vs. Ali.
     
  6. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I would not class Sonny a slugger, he was a box-puncher, but I agree he is outboxed here. Maybe he was not fully fit? It's just sparring and Sonny seems to be generous with Ernie not following up when he clips him. He looks heavy handed and is one of those fighters who can only connect with a fully weighted shot. He can't find an opening without using full leverage even in sparring but sonny is behaving like a gentleman here.

    Ernie looks a good boxer here. He has the room to work and size to compete with that reach. Would have been a good real fight. Didn't Sonny referee Ernie once too?
     
  7. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As part of his pro development young Clay sparred a few rounds with Ingo Johansen on the way to Ingo's title winning fight with patterson (as i recall ) and young clay was reported to have made a ****** out of him....

    i think it was in the run up to the Ali - Terrell fight that the Ring Magazine featured - with Photo's an earlier sparring session between Clay and Terrell, circa 62 i think, and it was reported that Terrell pretty much Dominated with the Jab,
     
  8. JWSoats

    JWSoats Active Member Full Member

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    This was an interesting clip. Does anyone know when it happened?
     
  9. grumpy old man

    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I read an article that said Terrell traveled with Sonny Liston and sparred over 1000 rounds with him.

    Bill Carlin quote:

    "Try and dig up some dirt on Ernie. You can't. Ernie's never been a drinker or smoker. He's religious. He's a vegetarian. You can't come up with anything bad on Ernie".

    "Ernie is part of the forgotten era of heavyweights. He traveled with Sonny Liston and sparred over 1000 rounds with him."

    "Ernie once told me: "Liston paid me my biggest compliment. Sonny was talking about me and didn't know I was listening. He asked his trainer, "Am I sparring Terrell today? Man I gotta duck down to his kness not to get hit."


    :deal Not sure when the clip in question happened though.
     
  10. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never saw this. Terrell wasn't bad and...he had the tools to win fights. Big guy, good jab, a numbing right when he landed it but, IMO, he fought only to win, not to give paying customers a good fight. What an 'octopus', as Ali called him. If you weren't lucky enough to land a clean bomb on him, he'd tie you up ALL nite!
    Didn't Williams TKO him in the late 50's early 60's? Not sure about that. Yet another scrap that's not available.
    Despite his crap style Mom and Dad Terrell have to be proud of their offspring. Son a WBA 'champ' and daughter a member of the Supremes!
     
  11. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great footage both men have moments.
     
  12. grumpy old man

    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Williams stopped Terrell in 7 in early '62, and the referee none other than Sonny Liston.

    Terrell avenged the Williams loss a year later.
     
  13. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I met Earnie in our gym in Minneapolis in '73 and he talked about being thumbed by Ali in the first round and showed me how he did it. I had no reason to doubt him, on film theres an early clinch where he says it happened and if so it would seem Ali intended to do this and early. Earnie told me the fight was over at that point and that everthing was a visual blur the entire 15 rounds, all he could do was keep his gloves in front of his face. There were a number of scribes before the bout who thought Terrell's jab and right hand were both better then Ali's but he almost used neither and this was his reason why.
     
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  14. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    George Chuvalo gives the impression in his book and in interviews that Terrell was solidly mobbed up.