How did Liston, Clay, Patterson all miss out on Harold Johnson?

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Very good fights that could have been made. Harold was still a great fighter up until 1963.
     
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  2. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Johnson was a good fighter, that explains why Patterson didn't fight him.
     
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    janitor VIP Member

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    Its a shame, because it would have answered some cross era questions.
     
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  4. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True. Never fought a top 10 contender.
     
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  5. JWSoats

    JWSoats Active Member Full Member

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    I can remember Liston expressing interest in defending his heavyweight title against Johnson in early 1963. Probably Johnson's loss of the LH title to Willie Pastrano killed any chance of a Liston-Johnson fight. Too bad - it could have been an interesting fight. Johnson may not have won but he might have taken Sonny the distance.
     
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  6. SolomonDeedes

    SolomonDeedes Active Member Full Member

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    Liston was supposed to fight Johnson way back in '56 but it got cancelled when Johnson was injured in training. A relatively green Liston against prime Johnson could have been interesting.
     
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    Harold Johnson .President of the," Who Needs Him Club".


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  8. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Guess the man was too high a risk, for the reward, type of fighter, huh....
     
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  10. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Because he was a light heavyweight and they were heavyweights?
     
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  11. WhyYouLittle

    WhyYouLittle Stand Still Full Member

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    I don't think it would've worked. He said he felt heavy at 180 against Machen. The Machen fight might've been what actually killed his shot at Liston.
     
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  12. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True. But here's a list of heavyweights he beat: Eddie Machen, Howard King, Bert Whitehurst, Sid Peaks, Wayne Bethea, Bob Satterfield, Marty Marshall, Henry Hall, Nino Valdez, Arturo Godoy, Clarence Henry, Jimmy Bivins, and Ezzard Charles.
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's a masterclass v Charles.

    I rank Johnson above a lot of bigger men all time at the weight.
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Me-ow!
     
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  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Apart from Moore, Jackson, Harris, London, Johansson and Liston?
     
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