How did Liston, Clay, Patterson all miss out on Harold Johnson?

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Very good fights that could have been made. Harold was still a great fighter up until 1963.
     
  2. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Johnson was a good fighter, that explains why Patterson didn't fight him.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Its a shame, because it would have answered some cross era questions.
     
  4. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True. Never fought a top 10 contender.
     
  5. JWSoats

    JWSoats Active Member Full Member

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    I can remember Liston expressing interest in defending his heavyweight title against Johnson in early 1963. Probably Johnson's loss of the LH title to Willie Pastrano killed any chance of a Liston-Johnson fight. Too bad - it could have been an interesting fight. Johnson may not have won but he might have taken Sonny the distance.
     
  6. SolomonDeedes

    SolomonDeedes Active Member Full Member

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    Liston was supposed to fight Johnson way back in '56 but it got cancelled when Johnson was injured in training. A relatively green Liston against prime Johnson could have been interesting.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Harold Johnson .President of the," Who Needs Him Club".


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  8. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  9. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Guess the man was too high a risk, for the reward, type of fighter, huh....
     
  10. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Because he was a light heavyweight and they were heavyweights?
     
  11. WhyYouLittle

    WhyYouLittle Stand Still Full Member

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    I don't think it would've worked. He said he felt heavy at 180 against Machen. The Machen fight might've been what actually killed his shot at Liston.
     
  12. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True. But here's a list of heavyweights he beat: Eddie Machen, Howard King, Bert Whitehurst, Sid Peaks, Wayne Bethea, Bob Satterfield, Marty Marshall, Henry Hall, Nino Valdez, Arturo Godoy, Clarence Henry, Jimmy Bivins, and Ezzard Charles.
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's a masterclass v Charles.

    I rank Johnson above a lot of bigger men all time at the weight.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Me-ow!
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Apart from Moore, Jackson, Harris, London, Johansson and Liston?