Carl Froch vs Roy Jones jr ... Prime for Prime

Roy didn't have the tools to counter Carl Froch if he got backed up?atsch

I actually think Roy would have done good work against Carl fighting off the ropes.. He could have used them while looking for and avoiding the big shots, or blocking them, and counter the hell out of the much slower Froch who was wide open for them as Groves was showing us for some of the time beofre that predictable punch he got flattened with.

I wish ESB was around in the early 90's... People always go crazy after a big KO..

I wonder what everyone would have been saying after Toney took Michael Nunn's head off??:think

 

Is this real life?

 

People either have short memories, or they simply never watched him prime.

If Roy was 25 today, there would be ten threads per day discussing how great he was etc.

I like Carl, and I've always liked him. But without being disrespectful, Roy would have trashed him with ease.

That's how great Roy was around 94/95.

He would have beaten him with absolute ease, like he was a nobody.

Then the critics would have said 'so what'?

Just compare the styles.

Carl's a proud man and he'd have kept coming forward.

He wouldn't have fought defensive.

He'd have gone forward, and he'd have got bashed up.

IMHO, the fight has got a TKO written all over it.

You'll no doubt get the response 'Carl was better than (insert name) and they didn't get knocked out etc'

But that's because a lot of people can't appreciate the styles of each fighter.

Carl's aggressiveness would have been his undoing.

Roy was more than content to box his way to a decision.

But if you went at him, he was going to try and get you out of there.

It's not being disrespectful towards Carl, to say he'd have had no chance.

The majority of the guys on here picking Carl, are just doing so, because they dislike Roy.

They aren't being honest with themselves.

 

People talking about Frochs chin also need to realize that Jones hit harder than anyone Froch has fought.

Groves and Yatlor both had Froch in trouble, Jones hit harder, as well as being faster, with a greater variety of shots than either of them.

And far more elusive.

We saw how Carl looked against an elusive fighter like Dirrell.

Jones was just as elusive, and was better in every other way than Dirrell

 

After the dude said Roy "lacked the tools" I was done with the conversation. I encourage you guys to do the same.

 

What gives you the idea that Froch could headbutt Roy's power punches all night? Who has he fought with the speed and power of RJJ?

Lets not forget, there are fighters that went 12 rounds with Nigel Benn and Julian Jackson but couldn't go 12 with Roy.. It isn't a given Froch would last just because he hasn't been knocked out.

Also, Froch is slow and would be at a big disadvantage in the speed department, he is somewhat one dementional, and lacks and elite defense.. I think Roy is just on a different level.. There is only so far heart, will and chin will take you. I think it would look a lot like Jones vs. Woods, except Jones was even more agressive in the 90's.

 

We're just waiting for Rico Spadafora to grace us with his presence.

 

This x 100!

 

realsoulja,

I think he was at 168, at 25/26.

I don't think so.

IMHO, they wouldn't have been any later rounds.

Also, even a guy with a will of iron can be deterred after a while.

Nope.

I just watched him at 25/26, and his speed, skills and power put him on another planet to a fighter like Carl.

Carl's proved that he's got a very good/great chin.

But let's not get carried away.

He's never fought anyone as powerful as Roy, that's had the same speed.

Roy knocked out Griffin with a lead uppercut, who weighed 180 plus.

He also stopped Hill, and was the only guy to do so out of 57 fights.

Carl is susceptible to body shots, and there's no way he would be able to take the shot that landed on Hill.

Roy has proven to me, that he had more than enough power to knock Carl down and keep him there.

There's nothing to suggest that Carl could have taken Roy's power shots.

I can't envisage both fighters going toe to toe, but if they had have done, Roy would have landed with far more accuracy and power.

Just look at Roy's timing and his repertoire of shots.

It's the shots you don't see that do the most damage.

Carl clearly has a really powerful straight right, as we all saw two weeks ago.

But Roy would have seen that coming before he even thought about throwing it.

How often do you see Carl throw left hooks and uppercuts?

How often does he throw body shots?

Compare both fighters footwork and reflexes.

IMHO, there's just no way Carl could have beaten him.

 

Also,

We need to realize when Froch blocks punches with his head, Roy would be scoring points..

Say he can take Jones' shots, chances are, Jones would have a pretty big lead towards the end of the fight.. Roy was smart enough to sniff out danger if he could see Froch was getting desperate and just stay away from him the last few rounds and not take chances...

I can see Roy winning this fight many ways.

I can only see Froch winning it one way, and due to his speed, and one dementional style, I don't find it very likely.

 

Roy used to win on Saturday night, take Sunday off and then be up in the morning at 5am for his Monday morning run. That is how dedicated he was in his prime. Training all year around.

Floyd does the same; Andre Ward does the same. Toney was the same in his prime except he just sparred instead of the road work.

Boxing is their bread and butter and their only income. They need to be sharp all year around. No way does Carl Froch take Roy Jones to hell and back.

I doubt such a fight would even get to the second half. Froch the warrior (and he is a warrior) wouldn't even get the chance to get warmed up to come on strong.

Total mismatch.

 

How many power shots do you think Froch could take before the referee steps in? 10-12 rounds worth? How many knock downs?

How many times do you think RJJ could drop Froch, if Groves could drop him?

3 knock down rule?

 

this can't be a serious thread....
the best fighter of his generation against a fighter who wasn't even the best in his division

imagine andre dirrell taking a gorilla pill when he fought froch, and then you will know what a froch - jones fight would be like

 

If Roy had fought Froch in his prime he would have been accused of cherry picking.
This is a mismatch of the highest order.