Are there any punch stats on Greb?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    The human windmill was known for being active. Are there any punch stats on him?

    Also, could Greb have fought a bit like Roosenbloom or Meehan? One of those types who quickly hits than backs away, clinches, or ducks?

    With so many punches landed, one would think Greb would have more attrition stoppages.
     
  2. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I suspect he was at least an occassional arm-puncher and slapper. I picture him to be like Calzaghe, but dirtier and more active wrestling free in the clinches.
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no, those two fools didnt come along until the 80s
     
  4. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are there any punch stats on Greb ?
    No, in the 1920s there were no computers.:lol:
     
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  5. Seamus

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    I have CompuBox numbers from Jeffries-Ruhlin.

    In seriousness, it wasn't just Greb's hand speed and activity on the offensive end. It was his feet that really set him apart. As he aged, and accumulated damage, he was forced to sit down more and more... still was wildly successful in that mode.
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    "The earliest punch stats (of sorts) that I've read were from the early days of the sport was when the referee of the controversial Jack McAuliffe/Young Griffo fight, Maxey Moore (who, I believe, was a friend or at least an acquantance of McAuliffe's), tried to use his counting of punches as a defense as to why he gave McAuliffe the ten round decision in that one.

    Apparently he used an indicator in each hand, counted only the "clean blows" landed (said he didn't count Griffo's "slaps"), wrote them down on a round-by-round basis, and at the end of the fight he was said to have a 137 to 123 count in favour of McAuliffe.

    The Brooklyn Daily Eagle has those stats in their postfight writeups. "
     
  7. mattdonnellon

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  8. Seamus

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  9. Surf-Bat

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    More like a rubbery-legged Aaron Pryor. Punches were constant and came from everywhere.
     
  10. OvidsExile

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    There isn't even any footage.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    No but they counted his lacings, and foot fouls ( stepping on the other guys foot ).
     
  12. burt bienstock

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    Yes my dad who saw Greb decimate Tunney in their first fight in MSG
    in 1922 described Greb bouncing around in all directions like a rubber
    ball. In his only training film with Phil Jack O'Brien, we can see a hint of
    his amazing bouncy legs when he is playing handball. By instinct ,when
    Harry is waiting for the handball, he is seen bouncing on both legs, even when the average handball player is grounded waiting for the ball...A tell
    tale sign of what energy Greb, had THOUGH THIS GREB way past his peak
    with about 275 bouts , would be DEAD in 13 months...
     
  13. timmers612

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    Always look for your postings Burt! I noticed also in those brief clips we have of Harry his surprising speed of foot and hand and energy. As your father and others fortunate enough to have watched Greb said he did those things pretty much non stop for entire bouts.
     
  14. Boilermaker

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