Did Calzaghe avoid Ottke like the plague?

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    sven was in reality beaten several times, but was rescued by his paid ref.

    calzaghe would beat him by volume, edging out a split SD on neutral turf. but joe cannot stop a defensive sven with his feather fists. calzaghe was rescued by a ref a few times too so there is the possibility he would have been beaten once or twice.
     
  2. HerolGee

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    anyway as to this question, it seems to boil down to one matter, ifI might paraphrase the great obi-wan kenobi - who is more the coward, the cowardzaghe or the cowardzaghe that runs gibbering from him.
     
  3. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Otke was a older version of Chris John, Omar Narvaez and par with Ponglaslek. Fighting in his home town or near against cherry pick opponents. But Joe could had put pressure of that fight was the biggest fight at that time and seriously would make a bump in Joe carrier fighting at that time the second or maybe first above him world class opponent in that weight. Would be in the top tree best wins for Joe too, considering He was the unified champ at that time.
     
  4. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    your posts really have nose-dived to the point that you're just another blubbering mess who logs on and revisits groundhog day every single time

    go look in the mirror and remind yourself that there is still time to salvage your life, because it doesn't exist on here
     
  5. HerolGee

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    I sense a disturbance in your cowardzaghiness.
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    As a fan of both.
    No Calzaghe did not avoid Sven at all.
    It was Sven who was not interested in Calzaghe. Svens trainer even said sven wasnt interested and didnt want to know.

    Calzaghe and Ottke had 6 common opponents, where each fought 3 before the other and Calzaghe was the more impressive against common opponents.

    What you posted, goes on about Calzaghe having to fight in Germany first to get known, which seems odd.

    Still here read these.
    Calzaghe clearly stated he was happy to fight Ottke in Germany
    Read it for yourself
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    Ottke offered 1mil for unification
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3163285.stm

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  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its not often I agree with your posts, but this one is one I cannot disagree with :deal
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    It must be hard for you to accept that Veit has a win over a current top 10 fighter, who is a 2 time title holder and never lost the title in the ring :lol:
     
  9. bailey

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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Calzaghe fought Veit because the WBO had ordered him to, had he not they would've stripped him of his title, which wouldn't have been very conducive to helping him achieving one of his long desired goals of unifying all the belts, especially considering Frank Warr-en had already started negotiations with Jeff Lacy's people before that fight.

    That unification match up against Lacy would've been Joe's next fight after beating Veit had Lacy not had a mandatory defence against Robin Reid he had to get out of the way. Calzaghe and Warr-en didn't want Lacy to go through with it, but Lacy said he didn't have a choice so Calzaghe decided on taking a tune up against Evans Ashira (in which he broke his hand badly, thus delaying the Lacy clash even longer) while he waited because he hadn't been as active as he would've liked to have been due to problems in his personal life (he'd been embroiled in a very long and very messy and acrimonious divorce from his then wife and he wanted to make sure he kept himself as sharp as possible going into such a big fight).

    Calzaghe was reputed to have completely gone off the rails during that time and even contemplated retirement. His wife had threatened to not only take half of his career earnings, but she was also threatening to take 50% of his future earnings too. So bearing in that in mind, and seeing as Joe was being offered by far the biggest purse of his career for fighting Veit again (£735,000), it made perfect sense for him to go through with it for a number of different reasons.

    'Joe Calzaghe's impressive sixth-round stoppage of Germany's Mario Veit in Braunschweig on Saturday has booked a unification fight with Jeff Lacy.
    If IBF super middleweight holder Lacy beats Robin Reid in August, then the American will face WBO champ Calzaghe.

    "If Jeff Lacy beats Robin Reid then the fight with Joe is a done deal," said Calzaghe's promoter Frank ******.

    "It'll either be in September, October or November but it is a 100% done deal provided Lacy wins."

    However, Calzaghe doubts a clash with Lacy is the career-defining bout he has been looking for for such a long time.

    "To be honest I don't think Lacy is a great fighter and I see myself beating him comfortably," said Calzaghe.

    "I am not sure whether Lacy will be my career-defining fight but he is one of the best in his division."

    The 33-year-old Welshman is still pondering a move up to light heavyweight and matches with Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson.


    Joe will go on the road now if necessary - wherever (the Lacy fight) can generate the most money
    Promoter Frank Warr-en

    Meanwhile, Calzaghe's father and trainer Enzo was relieved to see his son bouncing back from a string of personal problems.

    The southpaw was knocked down for only the second time in his career against Kabary Salem last October, blaming a bitter divorce battle.

    Calzaghe senior said: "Everybody is human, everybody feels, weeps and everybody has sentiments. Joe was crazed with his divorce and intimate things.

    "But forget that - that was the real Joe Calzaghe on Saturday."
     
  11. HerolGee

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    not nearly as hard as it is for you to accept that veit king of 4-6 rounders, was ****.
    though viet is not nearly as **** as your usual lies are, pretending veit held a proper world title ever in his life.

    although there was a brief period when you did shut up about him a while ago so it must have sunk in for a while when everyone was telling you he was crap.
     
  12. madballster

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    Exactly. Now I see Calzaghe reacting poorly to Froch's recent victory, but the truth is Froch manned up and faced the Ottke of his era (aka Andre Ward). Clazaghe didn't.
     
  13. HerolGee

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    but they are different people, Frankenstein froch and gibbering joe. froch likes to fight all the best and propose to his hot girlfriend afterwards, joe likes to fight as many weaklings as possible then pose as if hes some hero whilst his wife is divorcing him for cocaine abuse.
     
  14. Capitan

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  15. HerolGee

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    both otkke and joe were happy to take their own separate paths, exactly.


    sven was happy to defend both his major titles for a record number of smw defences.
    meanwhile joe cowardzaghe was happy to defend the least valuable, least desirable, least wanted title for a record number of smw defences for almost a decade.

    but hey he did fight Kessler.