Did Martinez do enough to get into the Hall of Fame?

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  1. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    But margarito won't be in there:patsch
     
  2. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WBC JMW Champion
    WBO MW Champion
    WBC MW Champion (2x)

    Wins -
    Paul Williams - Former WBO WW Champion KO 6
    Kelly Pavlik UD - WBO/WBC Middleweight Champion UD
    Julio Cesar Chavez - WBC Middleweight Champion UD
    Darren Barker - Future IBF Middleweight Champion KO 11
    Serhiy Dzinzuruk - WBO JMW Champion
    Kermit Cintron - Former IBF JMW Champion (Controversial Draw / KO)
    Mathew Macklin - 2x World title challenger RTD 11
    Martin Murray - 2x World title challenger UD

    Losses -

    Antonio Margarito - Former WBO/WBA/IBF Welterweight Champion TKO7
    Paul Williams - Controversial split decision
    Miguel Cotto - Former WBO LWW, WBO WW, WBA WW, WBA JMW and now WBC MW champion RTD 10

    51-3-2 28 KO

    On paper sergio looks pretty good and lesser people have been let in so why not?
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    He never won a title at Junior Middleweight.
     
  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Martinez was the best middleweight champion in the world until all the injuries. Void refused to fight him at 150.
     
  5. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    Guys like him normally get in.
     
  6. spopovich

    spopovich Active Member Full Member

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    Na. He was always overrated. I mean maybe stylistically he woulda been a problem to Mayweather Idk about that. But if he was the best middle it was a weak division. GGG woulda smashed him at any point in his career. You can bank on that.
     
  7. Sal-Chicha

    Sal-Chicha Active Member Full Member

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    Of course, he halted Williams path to greatness and started his own. High quality fights in both fights, modern day classics, Floyd, Pacquiao, Margarito, Cotto, Canelo, Lara, etc would not survive either one of those classics.
     
  8. spopovich

    spopovich Active Member Full Member

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    Idk about Williams path to greatness. He was problem simply due to his proportions but he didn't even use that to its full potential. If he fought on the outside he woulda been a real problem but he either didn't know how to or refused to do it.
     
  9. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    He picked up an interim title then later elevated to full champ


    Martinez’s triumph over the #1 world-rated Bunema, on October 4, 2008, at the Pechanga Resort and Casino in Temecula, CA, was a masterpiece. Sergio flawlessly outboxed and outclassed Bunema with his signature quick southpaw style. The ringside doctor eventually stopped the fight before the beginning of the ninth round. Martinez picked up the interim WBC 154lb. title with the victory, seen on HBO.

    The newly-crowned titilist was back in action on Valentines 2009, but there was hardly any love in the air when he stepped in with former welterweight world chamion Kermit Cintron. It had appeared that Martinez was a knockout winner in the seventh round when he dropped Cintron, who was then counted out by referee Frank Santore. However, after a lengthy commotion, it was ruled that Cintron had risen before Santore had counted to ten, and Santore only waved his arms to signify the end of the round. Still, after twelve stanzas had concluded, most observers felt that Martinez won the majority of the rounds. Yet, the judges saw it another way, ruling the bout a draw with two scores of 113-113, while the third judge tallied 116-110 in Sergio’s favor.

    In May 2009, the WBC elevated Martinez’ status from interim to full champion at 154lb. due to the inactivity of titleholder Vernon Forrest. Tragically, the two never got the chance to meet in the ring because on July 25, 2009, Vernon Forrest was murdered in a senseless act of gun violence in his home city of Atlanta, GA. The impact of Forrest’s death hit the boxing community, including Martinez, hard.
     
  10. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    although he was one of the most exciting fighters in recent years and was never in a boring fight, he is borderline HOF at best


    he won the WBC interm belt at 154, but never sucessfuly defended it
     
  11. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Williams's own deficiencies, such as a crap defense, halted his path to greatness.
     
  12. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    tonis a bum dude
     
  13. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Has Floyd Mayweather done enough to get in the Hall of Fame?

    Five weight world champion

    Lineal champion in 3 of those weights

    46-0

    Wins over Marquez, Hatton, Canelo, Cotto, G. Hernandez, Manfredy, Corrales, Judah, and Guerrero
     
  14. JamesG1986

    JamesG1986 Active Member Full Member

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    Close call I'd say he did he was the legitimate middleweight champ for years and always beating bigger opposition fighter of the year I'd say he gets in but could see an argument for him not making it
     
  15. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    GTFO with **** ! This is about Martinez