Head to Head Marciano against anyone under 190lb

Moore was 38… and oh, he had more knockouts than any other guy who was right under 200… or any weight… and he had just gone 6-0 (4) against Bob Baker, Whitehurst, Harold Johnson, Maxim, Nino Valdes and Bobo Olsen… A real chump, I know.

 

Uh, no. On so many levels it baffles the mind.

 

Not a slickster like Marciano with his impeccable technique and blinding speed!

 

:thumbsup, YUP- Clay would have cut him up and knocked him out, Roy Jones id put my money on him to stop Marciano too, too damn fast, Holyfield of course, and id put my money on Chris Byrd to beat the hell out of him too...

Im thinking Andre WARD would be kinda small for Marciano he fought Froch at 168:huh

 

Ward's walking around weight is about 180 and he already humiliated Chad Dawson. He could get in on some of that Stevenson/Kovalev/Hopkins action at light heavyweight if he'd stop being such a ***** admit he's cleared out super middle and move up. Besides, when you consider day of weights vs day before weights you got to move everyone up a division or two; so he's basically fighting what in bygone days would have been light heavyweights. Carl Froch and Mikkel Kessler are bigger than Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, and Floyd Patterson.

Ward is a bit on the small side, but I think if he doesn't cut any weight he might come in around 175-180 and only give up 10-15 pounds to Marciano while being way faster and more mobile. Basically, my premise is that most of the top guys with good technique and who could take a punch near Marciano's weight beat him. If Louis, Charles, Moore, and Walcott hadn't been so worn down and past prime they would have done the trick too. Charles wasn't as old as the others being only 33 but by then he'd had about a 100 fights and was just entering that big losing streak at the end of his career. 50 or even 25 fights before that Charles would have had enough to beat Marciano.

 

Yeah, because LaStarza, Charles, Walcott and Moore weren't slick at all. Nope. Just cromags throwing for the fences.

 

LaStarza isn't on the same level as the rest. As for the others, they were slick at one time, and still had something left in them, but they were nowhere near peak condition anymore. In their primes they'd have danced around Marciano, and Louis might have knocked him out. It would have looked like Ali vs Chuvalo.

 

I love how a guy who never lost, fought everyone and beat multiple hall of famers always seems to lose every fantasy match up to some guys. He can't box, he's too small, he got everyone when they were 100 years old. You would think he was 0-49. Do I think Wlad and Lennox might be trouble for the Rock sure but I wouldn't take Jones, Ward or Byrd against him. Holyfield would be a war.

 

Again, Moore went 6-0 (4) against Bob Baker, Whitehurst, Harold Johnson, Maxim, Nino Valdes and Bobo Olsen… all in a row. Did he have a better run in his career? Answer me that.

Walcott was the heavyweight champion. What had he accomplished before that surpassed that?

 

You know, I think maybe Ricardo Lopez could beat him. Someone's 0's got to go.

 

He was pretty strong and durable for a 5'10" 190 lb dude, but I reckon he was just good for his era when there was extremely light competition. If he'd had to fight guys 6'7" 245 lbs all his career I think the rock would crack like an egg and be seen as a feeble puncher.

There are about 90 decent to great heavyweights who are bigger than him, and just law of averages, I'd assume at least some of them hit harder and take better punches.

 

At least some of them hit harder & take better punches is a moderate & rational statement.

Marciano being seen as a feeble puncher-even though I think he loses to the skilled giants-is not reasonable.