My Scorecard For The Provodnikov Algieri Fight, With Explanation

I felt round 5 was embarrassing.

 

Good post, I agree. Had Provodnikov not scored those knockdowns, the margin for Algieri would have been larger and hardly anyone would complain about decision. Stalking and hitting air and arms doesn't win rounds.

Also, if Bradley didn't have that "stand your ground and engage" attitude sometimes, his wins would be a lot more dominant.

 

If fights were scored based on power then why even bother have them fight? Just give Ruslan the decision right from the get go because he's clearly the harder puncher.

 

If the power and effect of shots ISNT a factor, why not just score on the number of punches landed plus number of punches avoided? Then all fighters could just wear protective head gear and could fight less rounds. Oh wait...

See what happens when you take things to the extreme?

Number of punches landed matters, Defense Matters, Ring Generalship matters, but at the end of the day most judges score rounds based on who did more damage to the other guy. Everything else is a part of that. Slick boxing is great because it means you avoid more damage from the other guy while landing your own punches. It's not great because it looks cool. If you shoe shine a guy with 100 punches that do absolutely nothing and get hit only once but stumble around the ring with chicken legs, you lost that round. That's professional boxing.

 

Roach's fighters don't do well against slick boxers. Pacquiao has some struggles with Bradley. He hasn't faced a technical boxer other than Bradley and Marquez and they both give him fits. Provodnikov struggled against Bradley and Algeri. I don't know if Roach was in his corner for the Herrera fight though. I think Cotto doesn't want the Lara fight because he'd probably get outboxed. MY assessment at least.

 

I agree with your point, to a degree. I think it is also extreme to say that a guy could land 100 punches and a guy could land 1 punch that really wobbles the opponent and he'd get the round. Knock him down, yes. But there should be more to who gets it than that.

What I'm really getting at is that scoring can't be based strictly on quantitative results. In either direction. How did the round play out? Were the 100 punches, despite being light shots, were they flush shots? Who was in control? Who was fighting who's fight?
It is all very, very subjective. It's all well and good to say the guy who hurts his opponent more in a round wins the round. But that isn't all there is to scoring.

You can't just pick a favorite style and score that way, because then you aren't being objective. You've got your card tilted already toward one fighter. There is no way guys like Algieri, Malignaggi, etc. couldn't win many rounds, if any at all, because everyone knows going in they aren't going to hurt their opponent more in any round.

Now I scored the fight for Provodnikov 114-112, but could see how he might have lost. It was close.

There has been a lot of debate about this on here lately, but my general point about this whole topic is that there are different styles and tactics that can be employed in a fight, and any one style should not be given a leg up.

The clash of styles is often what makes fights worth watching. The different tactics that are employed from fight to fight is what determines the flow of a fight.

 

I ended up with the same ultimate score for Algieri, except by a different route:

(detailed round descriptions serving as/in lieu of redundant explanation)



The only round we both gave Provodnikov, interestingly was the mandatory 10-7 in the 1st. :think

Provodnikov was aggressive in the championship rounds but IMO still largely ineffective. Algieri was on his bike, yet dropped in just enough counter jabs to keep himself on the scoreboard in those frames. Meanwhile, the 2nd, 4th, and 7th were all close ones that saw Provodnikov hurting Algieri with his power shots a bit more regularly than he did for the rest of the night outside the 1st.

 

:rant

 

That was typed with self-awareness, don't worry.

His brother kept repeating that word in the corner well past the point of cringe-worthiness, and when a spot came in my post where it just kind of fit perfectly I definitely chuckled to myself.

 

Lol. I kept saying, you have to offer the guy better advice than that. But I guess it worked out or him.

 

I think his brother is the kind of guy you just want to look for a reason to hate, as he came off like a typical obnoxious Guido.

The corner advice wasn't the worst, though.

 

No, not the worst.

That would have been something along the lines of "I want you to sit down on yaw punches, this guy can't hurtchu. I think you can get him outta theh."

 

"Yer a woyyyy-ah! Yer a killah!!! Open a can o whoop!! :rant"