Razor Ruddock vs Evander Holyfield

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  1. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    dude rddock was fat and shot to **** when morrison won/ and the fight ewas stopped way too soon bro:nono
     
  2. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree seamus ruddock was so shot by 95 it wasnt even funny
     
  3. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I gotta agree with you, the Morrison fight was stopped a tad premature, but on the flip side, Ruddock didn't protest the stoppage at all, probably because he knew he was gonna get paid, and get outta dodge soon, and im sorry but when your back is on the ropes and your opponent is just hammering away at you you gotta grab and hold, take a knee, or spin out, like i said in my previous post he wasn't that bright...

    Another thing if your a Heavyweight and only 32, and already fat and shot to ****, then i guess it's time to find another line of work, because your hearts not into boxing, 32, is pretty damn young, that's a sign you were never that good to begin with...
     
  4. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Giving Mike Tyson two very tough fights in 1990 was pretty impressive.
     
  5. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Due to Holyfields tendency to brawl and lack of punching power, compared to the Tysons and Lewis', this fight would be a lot closer than people think.

    but Holyfield is a class above and should win, but i do feel people ever so slightly overate Holyfield sometimes
     
  6. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    mike tyson ruined razor ruddock over 19 rds .......ruddock was done by 27 yrs of age / tyson ruined many fighters/ but i agree if ruddock wasnt into boxing he should not have fought morrison/ he looked fatt as hell
     
  7. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rudduck is way to easy to hit and his pathetic workrate of throwing 20 punches a round isn't winning rounds against this guy. He'll eat a ton of combos every round and take a sustained beating the whole fight. Evander will use his footwork and turn him and razor will surprise nobody and fight a dumb fight. Maybe win 1 or 2 rounds, but even those rounds would be close due to Holyfield's superior workrate and accuracy.
     
  8. fists of fury

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    I'd favour Holyfield.

    Higher workrate, punched in combination, ridiculous powers of recovery, granite chin, better movement, and maybe most importantly, fought to a gameplan.*

    Ruddock had immense power and that really worked against him because like all knockout punchers, he started to neglect fundamentals and relied on his get-out-of-jail card too much.

    Holyfield is simply more polished, simple as that. And getting sucked into a brawl does not
    automatically spell disaster either. He had tremendous toughness and was a sneaky and effective counter-puncher, inside or on the outside.
    Ruddock carries by far more one-shot power, but it's not like Holy couldn't punch (the list of good chins he dented is pretty impressive really) and he punched in combination, so something would always land.

    I feel Ruddock is too predictable and has too low a workrate to win this fight. I do disagree that he wasn't world-class though. For a while (admittedly quite brief) he looked a tremendous force. Had he not neglected the finer points of the game (which he actually knew but rarely used) he could have achieved more.

    But still, I go with Holyfield. Raw power alone is not enough to defeat him. One needed a more complete package than the one Ruddock had to do that.

    *That did go out the window sometimes admittedly, but he could be remarkably disciplined as well.
     
  9. fists of fury

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    In fairness though, that Smash was one effing GREAT punch. He really disguised it well. (Quite ironic really, I know.)

    But if you look at the Dokes KO, Dokes responds to what looks like a jab at first, but then Ruddock turns it into that hybrid uppercut/hook in one fluid motion. That really caught Dokes by surprise.
    The punch was dangerous not only for it's force, but also for the weird angle it came in at. Hard to defend against. Dude had skills, just criminally underused them. (and criminally overused one punch.)