Will Wladimir Klitschko ever win Ring Magazine's "Fighter of the Year Award"?

Not even close to the worst. The heavy division has almost always been weak relative to the other divisions. I would say post Sullivan to Johnson was far worse. Dempsey's title reign was a joke. Post war until the early 60's was worse. Late 70's was worse

 

Dempsey - Miske, Brennan, Carpentier, Gibbons, Tunney, Sharkey are p4p 100000x times the competition of bums like Haye, Byrd, Chambers

post-war to 60s - Charles, Walcott, Moore, and even the overrated Marciano are p4p way better than the Klitschkos and their bum opponents

late 70s - Ken Norton and Larry Holmes are way better than the Bum Klitschkos. unlike the Klitschkos they actually fought and beat elite opponents.


the only part you are right about is post-Sullivan pre-Johnson

 

The late 70's featured .
Ali
Foreman
Norton
Young
Lyle
Holmes
Shavers
Cooney
Bugner
Coetzee
Tate
Weaver

Post war to early 60's.

Louis
Walcott
Charles
Marciano
Patterson
Liston
Layne
Valdes
Henry
Baker
Conn
Ray
Bivins
Baksi
Gomez
Folley
Machen
Moore
Johannson
Jones
Terrell
Williams
Drunk?

 

The HW division took it home 7 times in the 1970s. A HW hasn't won it since 1996.

Its so bad this era the championship has been brushed under the carpet down on Eurosport.

 

And who dominated the heavyweight division in the 70's? Il tell ya it's the same place the ring magazine comes from

This era is considered bad because America are doing terribly in it

 

HBO did the best they could promoting the Wlad. He blew it himself and decided to relocate to Germany where the rules do not apply. Wlad could of been a big star in the US

Desist communication with me.

 

Sure ya haha if the klitschkos were American they would be idolised and the heavyweight division would be in great shape

The ring has ward p4p no.2 and he holds more than wlad and headbutts and couldn't knock out a fart, your logic has been dismissed

 

yeah these people are so stupid. "if he was american"

well Marquez, Pac, Barrera, Morales, Kovalev, Golovkin, Cotto, Froch aren't American and they get all the praise in the world. Froch is less hated on than the American Ward

 

no, its because this era's "best" heavyweights like Sam Peter barely got past a blown up fat washed up middleweight James Toney

the "great" David Haye has not beaten one good opponent

Ruiz, Byrd, were some of the "top" contenders in the heavyweight division

the heavyweight division is perceived to be terrible because it IS terrible. don't pull the race/nationality card it holds no credibility when a lot of the biggest names are non-American (Golovkin, Froch, Marquez, Pacquiao, etc)

try again

 

All them fighters are at lower weights where there's actually good American fighters you ******ed ****

 

Miske couldn't even train for that fight he was so sick. It was Jack's favor to Billy, who's car dealership had gone underwater and who was in a frightful bout with Bright's Disease. Bill Brennan had been beaten 4 times by Harry Greb before the Dempsey defense, yet there was no attempt to actually sign Greb as defense. Carpentier was a featherweight come light heavy who had a paper thin resume, wouldn't even sit ringside at a Greb fight let alone match him, later got blasted by rank amateur Siki and who STILL rocked Dempsey at 170 pounds. Lightheavy Tunney proved Dempsey's superior twice. Sharkey, about the 100th greatest heavy ever, schooled Dempsey before losing his composure which was his norm.

No, thank you, I will take Waldo's defenses over this bunch.

Evangelista, Dunn, Spinks (worst heavy champ of all time), Parkinson's Ali, Coopman… The Norton who took Holmes deep was BLASTED and beat for the rest of his career by has-beens and never-to-be's. Worst era ever.

 

haye chisora byrd peter is the worst era by far. not even questionable

the "best" heavyweight contender of this era - Peter, needed 2 debatable decisions to beat a washed up bloated middleweight

 

Wlad is a great champion. To deny this is to refute the facts. You can't go 10 plus years as an undefeated, untied champion and not be considered great. Is he unpopular in America yes. There are many reason for this. From a media standpoint fighters and all athletes are under much more of a microscope today than ever before. Every misstep is noted, debated, and criticized endlessly by so called experts and fans. Chat rooms, social media like twitter and Facebook didn't exist in recent past, it gives everyone a voice and generally leads to negativity.
Outside of the social media perspective there are several other reasons he is not loved -
1. He is not an American- This plays a huge part in a heavyweights popularity. Even Lennox was not well received until he picked off the dying remnants of the last good American era- in Tyson and Holyfield. Until then he was still viewed skeptically by many. He begrudgingly earned America's respect but the decline in interest in the division started with Lennox although few people say this. Lewis needed Tyson and Holyfield. No one cared when he was fighting the Mavrovics and Akinwandes of the division. Wlad has been unable to do captivate an audience because there are no marquee American names to feast on.
2. He's boring. Love him or hate him many of his fights are dreadful. He is safety first and he never deviates from his plan.
3. He is too good for his own good. Since 2004 he has been utterly dominant barely losing more than a round in a fight and let's face it nobody likes the bully. One sided domination does not make for a compelling hero. Especially domination that is handled in a safety first manner.
4. He is boring outside of the ring- this is a big issue because I hate to say it but America loves the bad boy. The train wreck, the guy in all the tabloids. Whether it was riddick Bowe punching ppl in press conferences, tyson saying he was gonna stomp on testicles and eat babies as repulsive as it sounds, it sells. It draws excitement to the division. That is not Wlad he barely makes a wave.
5. The main threat to his title was his brother. Obviously they would never fight but throughout history most champions have had a great foil it just so happens his brother was the other dominant fighter.

Wlad is going for his 17th title defense 10th if you only count Lineal many of his opponents were in their dead set prime when he defeated them. He has crushed numerous undefeated opponents many of whom are bigger, stronger with better nutrition than ever before.

And if people don't beleive there is an American bias just look at the WBC, Vitali retires and what happens, coming off a loss to Stiverne, Arreola(an American)gets to fight (an American) in Seth Mitchell for the right to again face Stiverne for the title. Stiverne wins and what does the WBC do it orders him to fight back to back mandatories against the winner of (American) Wilder vs (American) Scott. Then the winner of (Anerican) Jennings vs Cuban defector Perez. Not to mention that Tony Thompson was their 6th rated contender going into the Takam fight and probably would be a future mando had he won.
The writing is on the wall- the WBC and powers that be desperately want an American to have the belt. Sports are big business and they can not wait for Wlad to pack up and go home. All those Americans in line for the title- but no Chisora, Fury, Glazkov, Pulev etc., in their ratings. Seems rather stacked especially in an era where the competition is more diverse than ever before globally.

 

fighting bums for 16 defenses is meaningless

Joe Louis did not have a bum of the month club - thats a misnomer

the Klitschkos - now they fight bums of the month

 

"Bum" is a subjective term. What can not be denied is that the Klitschko's have fought the best available, have not ducked anyone and defeated all comers. Something many champions can not claim. If you want to argue fighters don't face each other frequently enough that would be fair but that is more do to, marketability, economics and Health awareness to the adverse aspects of the sport. Nothing to do with either K brother.

In today's climate a fighter must be undefeated to be marketed to the mass audience - people need look no further then the diet of stiffs Wilder has been fed- or the sports biggest star Mayweathher building his brand around his undefeated mark. So when a heavyweight fighter reaches a certain point with no loss - his career freezes and he waits to cash in on that. Somebody like Jersey Joe Walcott would be laughed at today trying to secure a title shot. It's true in all sports and it's a shift in cultural perception. Look at basketball Lebron James gets ripped apart for losing an NBA final even though he won two titles already- great players like Elgin Baylor went years without winning today They would be perceived as also rans instead of the greats that they were.

also on the master of Joe Louis fighting bums of the month they weren't bums relative to their era but much like I believe Lebron James would feast on the NBA of the 40s and 50s I think the Klitschko's would do the same in boxing. Athletes become bigger stronger and faster in ALL sports. I am not saying Joe Louis could not win one fight with a Klitschko because a great fighter is a great fighter, but boxers from yesteryear would not be able to survive long continuously fighting better stronger faster opposition. That's why I judge fighters on how they fair against their peers.