Which Heavyweight Champs beat Sonny?

This is fascinating. You've spent years telling us that "you can't say with any certainty that a great fighter will lose" and that "it's hard to envisage it because it never happened" and most of all insisting, to the point of pig-headedness that "he never beat anyone quite like x so it's difficult to say...". Just tonight you wrote that " It is difficult to predict a great fighter losing with any certainty."

But when it comes to Liston, you seem to take on this sudden air of total certainty. Strange.

I like this reasoning better than that bull**** about Liston's enormous reach advantage actually being a huge disadvantage But it's still bull****.

Probably it's best if you don't chose, for some unknowable reason, to persistently quote my posts when you are speaking very generally and in no way engaging with those posts. There is something masochistic about the way you clamour for my attention despite the fact that you know I find you ridiculous, and am bound to tell you so in my reply to you.

 

But I didn't adopt that tone, at all. It is in your head. If you read back the post that you've quoted, I'm laughing at your stupidity and, in the calm tone of a headmaster :yep pointing out your apparent masochism in repeatedly quoting me for no reason.

This is the second or third time you've accused me of behaving like a "scorned woman". Your continual quoting of my posts for no apparent reason and determination to womanise my posts despite all evidence to the contrary is fucking...weird...

This is also made up in your head. At no time did i "decide" that it is "out of bounds" to suggest that Liston quit. If you read the post, this should be apparent.

Please try to calm down when you are talking to me. I don't have time to correct you every time you mis-understand a boxing-related point you cannot grasp, never mind when you become determined i'm a secret woman again

 

You are trying to have an argument with me about something I have no wish to argue about, and presuming that things I have said suggest things they do not. You are confused or are putting words in my mouth. This is a womanly attitude.

 

You can't forget something you never knew.

It's a very cold, direct statement of fact. I'm basically asking you why, knowing that I think very little of you, and knowing that I consider you biased and a troll in relation to Liston, specifically, why would you decide to quote me directly and then post in generalities.

Now, I have no idea what you consider to be a "womanly tone", but i'm presuming you are embracing a 1970s cliché and mean to say that I appear overly emotional or irrational. But I would suggest that that post is dispassionate and calm, the direct opposite of that.

I will give you this though - the fact that I am even discussing this with you is rather "womanly" in the sense I suppose you meant it. But of course, the fact that you dragged me into it with an overly emotional and irrational post kind of limits the impact...