British Elite Fighters

So, so many fighters lost or were stopped to non elite fighters? A loss makes no difference - PACQUIAO not elite cause he was stopped twice off people at a much lower lvl than McCall and Rahman? Stupid people can't be reasoned with

 

Is LL considered worldwide as the greatest ever?

What parameters do you set for elite?

 

Check the definition of elite you thick ****

 

Where's this definition you stupid *****? Wlad klitschko, stopped 3 times - not elite? Ray Robinson - stopped, not elite? Ray Leonard - stopped, not elite? Tommy Hearns - stopped, not elite? You are a dumb ****er

 

Lennox Lewis

Joe Calzaghe

Naseem Hamed

Carl Froch

Amir Khan

David Haye

I really believe Martin Murray, Callum Smith,George Groves,James Degale, Frankie Gavin, Scott Quigg all have the potential too

Oh and Big Josh

 

which is "the select part of a group that is superior to the rest in terms of ability and qualities"

this will be by weight class, not the mythical P4P rubbish.

the top 3-5 in each weight class are the Elite. if you're the Champ of that weight class, you can't get any more Elite than that.

this site has become far too gruesome for my liking. it's just full to the brim with idiots who don't know ****.

 

are you saying that only the greatest fighter EVER in a weight class can be considered Elite????

you're worse than i thought. :tired

 

As much as i dont like Froch it would take an idiot to say hes not elite when he was rated in the ring magazine top ten.

Hes the second best smw in the world

 

I agree with that list , would also throw Ricky Hatton in the mix too.

 

Just ridiculous to say Froch isn't elite. Hatred based on personality.

 

Completely agree if your number 1 or 2 in your division at any time you have got to be considered elite, to be the best in your weight class on the planet is ridiculously hard even getting into the top 3 is an incredibly achievement

Think the op's idea of elite is all time great status the type of talent that comes round once in a generation I would say Lennox is probley the closet thing we have had to a truly all time great but he's still way off in my opinion yes he would of been a match for any heavy ever but you can only look at his career and although its an excellent one he did not face the elite till they were past there best

 

IMO here's levels in boxing

Area level
British level
European Level
World Level
World Class 2 or 3 best at your weight
Elite best at your weight and maybe others p4p top 10

End of the day Lennox Lewis is Canadian. So no matter about his losses I don't see how we can consider him British he got gold at Olympics for Canada that's like saying because Pele played in America he's the best American player of all time.. Joe Calzaghe is our top elite fighter of this generation IMO. David Haye is close to being elite although I believe he moved to heavyweight I to avoid the likes of Hernandez, Huck and Cunningham they 3 would of been better fights than going to heavyweight.. Hamed lost to the number one Barrera..

 

Hatton beat Tyzsu to become best at 140 lbs, Floyd wasn't at 140 lbs yet and Cotto was still working his way up the ranks, do you consider Hatton elite at the time?

Hamed became number 1 at 126 winning multiple belts while Morales and Barrera where fighting at a different weight.

Calazaghe became number 1 while Jones and Hopkins where fighting at different weights.

Should they all be considered elite?

 

Great thread but how can Hamed/Calzaghe be in the same bracket as Khan?

Khan was not just under elite, he was a solid world champion, who when stepped up (Garcia/Peterson albeit on drugs) was found wanting.