Is Boxing Declining Because Of MMA?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by TheAmazing, Jun 27, 2014.


  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    What a boring ****.

    If you're going to troll about gays and your dislike of them at least be inflammatory and really hit a nerve. Troll hard or go home douche.

    As of now you're that kind of troll I hope gets backed over tomorrow morning so I never have to scroll by one of your posts again.
     
  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    quit making threads for the love of god
     
  3. TheAmazing

    TheAmazing ESB Heavyweight Champion Full Member

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    Are you that much of a troll that you have to stalk every thread I make :-(?
     
  4. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    How the fucc is boxing in a decline??

    Floyd Mayweather alone prob earned more than the entire UFC roster did combined in 2013.
     
  5. jakethemus

    jakethemus Active Member Full Member

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    I think its the other way around, mma is declining because of boxing. I used to compete in bjj and train mma, but I'm completely sick of the ufc and mma culture in general. Just totally bored of it. Boxing all the way for me mma was just a fad.
     
  6. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd would rather watch female boxing than MMA!
     
  7. TheAmazing

    TheAmazing ESB Heavyweight Champion Full Member

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    Did you read my entire post when it said BESIDES Mayweather and Pacquiao?
     
  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    youre a moron
     
  9. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    MMA is OK to watch... But I'll gladly hang up my Affliction shirt & watch boxing 10/10 times if both are on at the same time.
     
  10. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxing is declining because of a lack of boxing gyms, therefore less people are participating in the sport.

    Why is there a lack of boxing gyms? Mainly because the government oversubsidizes roads, houses, and other useless crap like public schools. A lot of land is being turned into suburban homes and than we have urban sprawl.

    In 1990 there used to be over 300 boxing gyms In California, now there is like 130 I'm guessing.

    http://www.boxinghelp.com/california.html
     
  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    No, mma theoretically should help boxing in the states since you need to box to compete in mma and people will cross train. Globally, there are as many matches as there were in the 40s, so the sport isn't going anywhere, except maybe to Germany, Japan, and Britain.

    Boxing declined in the United States for a couple of reasons that had nothing to do with mma and happened before they even got on the scene. Boxing declined in the US partially because of the overall richness and prosperity of the country. It's a blue collar sport in a country turning increasingly white collar. Then the rise of basketball and football to prominence diluted the talent pool.

    And the decline in the number of fights a boxer would take in a career meant that the people only got to see their favorite fighters once or twice a year instead of 12 or more in the other televised sports. Kobe Bryant and Dwayne Wade get a ton of screen time compared to Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao. Without stars television ratings suffer. Television sports shows can boost ratings only if they have a star or a title on the line. If you can't guarantee a star or a major boxing title every week, a major network can't make space for you on their schedule. It's more profitable to put The Big Bang Theory or something scripted on. People don't pull out of The Big Bang Theory because of injuries at the last moment and cause the whole show to get pulled.

    While mma can't guarantee a big network like Fox that a star like Jon Jones will fight on every card what it can guarantee is that every card will have at least one championship fight. They can do this because they own all the belts. Belts don't pass out of the UFC to some rival organization like they do in the IBF, WBC, WBO, or WBA. Fighters that one network spends a lot of money building up and promoting can take their belt from HBO, to Showtime, to NBC, to Fox, or even out of the country to RTL or something if they want. That's why all the mma organizations have their own belt. Bellator has it's own belts. And I think NBC's got some World Series of Fighting thing that has it's own belts and champs.

    Ironically, mma is in a similar situation to which boxing found itself in a century ago. But once the sport becomes truly global and you get some global competitive ranking and architecture to it, rival organization will proliferate stealing stars, and you won't be able to keep all the best fighters under one promotion. A few years from now, mma is probably going to look more like modern boxing. Dana White will retire like Tex Rickard, Mike Jacobs, and the other great promoters and his stable will fall into the hands of some other con man, with the UFC breaking up and fighters dispersing. Then mma will get hot in say New York, or Philadelphia, or New Orleans and that will be the mecha of mma for a while instead of Las Vegas.
     
  12. TheAmazing

    TheAmazing ESB Heavyweight Champion Full Member

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    What can we do to get more Boxing gyms. I remember it used to be a Boxing gym by where I lived an that closed down.

    Interesting you know your stuff man. That post has taught me a lot about BOTH sports. What we need like you said is more Boxing on major networks. It will make fighters more known like back in the day.
     
  13. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing doesnt decline in the US because it is wealthy, there are still, in terms of absolute numbers, plenty of poor people.

    MMA did have a large effect, but its the demographics of MMA that hurt boxing as a mainstream sport. MMA picked up the suburban and semi-rural younger demographic, particularly in the Midwest and South but also in big numbers on the NE and West Coast as well.

    I think the pendulum is starting to shift a bit though, and some MMA fans are starting to gravitate toward boxing a bit.
     
  14. TheRat

    TheRat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tell you the truth mma is becoming boring because of technicality like xelloss said mma fans are starting to gravitate to boxing.
    more and more men are becoming pussies now a days, guys think all you need to do talk like you're tough
     
  15. Super Hans

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    No. It's because of WWE.