Riddick Bowe vs Lennox Lewis 1993

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  1. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see a lot of opinions (mostly from Americans) on boxing forums that Bowe during this time would beat Lewis. I think that is a fantasy. Bowe and Rock Newman did everything humanly possible to avoid a collision with Lennox. Bowe was much too easy to hit and took the easy road as a champion by fighting overmatched Ferguson and Dokes. He was destroyed by Golota twice. Same Golota that Lewis dispatched within 90 seconds. Lewis was a very accurate power puncher and I think he would have knocked out Bowe with a big right hand just like he did in the olympics.
     
  2. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I live in America and most of the Americans i talk too, agree with me that Bowe was scared of Lewis , that's why he threw those belts in the trash...

    That was as very cowardly and chicken **** thing to do, who in their right mind would throw the belts away when you could defend those belts in the ring:nut, maybe Bowe knew in the back of his mind that Lewis would have KO'D him just like he did in the 88 Olympics...

    Bowe's manager was partly to blame! that turd, was one of the worst Managers i ever ever seen in Boxing, he couldn't even manage a taco stand...

    Bowe had 1 great night in 1992, and that was that, his Mcdonalds addiction didn't help either, guess he just wasn't physically or mentally built for a long career...
     
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  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think it would have been a 50/50 fight in 1993. Anytime beyond 1995 however and I'd favor Lewis heavily.. Just thought I'd paste this here regarding the duck..


    "The WBC gave Bowe and Lewis until December 13 to reach an agreement or the fight would go to a purse bid. If Bowe refused to meet Lewis, the WBC title would be awarded to Lewis. Rock Newman, Bowe's manager, made two offers to Lewis. The first would have guaranteed Lewis $3 million, while giving Bowe 90% of the purse and Lewis 10%. The second offer was for Lewis to refuse the WBC title, have an interim fight in the United States for $2.5 million, and then fight Bowe for $9 million or a percentage to be negotiated. Frank Maloney, the manager of Lewis, rejected both offers and countered with his own proposal: a 75-25 percent split of the purse. Newman turned it down. Maloney later had a change of heart and agreed to the first offer, but Newman told him he was too late. Newman said a deal for Bowe to defend the title against an opponent other than Lewis was imminent.
    On December 14, 1992, Bowe held a news conference and dumped his WBC title into a garbage can. "If Lewis wants the belt, he has to get it out of the garbage," Bowe said. The WBC then declared Lennox Lewis the new WBC heavyweight champion."
     
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  4. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Classic negotiation tactic. Give the other side a ridiculous proposal and after they refuse make it seem as if they are the ones that are to blame. Rock tried to protect his fighter but in the the process tarnished Bowe's legacy forever.
     
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  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Nobody fell for it. Not the public, media, experts, etc.. Bowe and his people have received full credit for that duck and rightfully so. Offering an opponent of equal popularity and prestige 10% of a super fight purse was more of an embarrassment to Bowe's camp than it was to Lennox's.
     
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  6. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bowe KO3 in a dominating performance. Lewis was still green and his chin was checked
    by Oliver McCall a year earlier. Bowe outjabs Lewis, eats his punches for breakfast, roughs Lewis up on the inside and finishes with a big overhand right. Lewis in 93 was sloppy, lacked balance and lacke an elite jab and granite chin. Bowe on a much higher level at this point. Bowe wanted revenge
    For the imo controversial loss in the amateur style system. Bowe had better technique, a better trainer, a better punch repertoire, and more power. Get Real, Bowe thrashes Lewis, and I have nothing but admiration for Lennox. Bowe much more polished. Bowe KO3.
     
  7. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    One of my most regretful ' never hapenned' bouts.
    Im 80% Lennox
    He was still green back then but Lennox had charachter and was always 'up' for his biggest fights...
    Never forget Lennox beat EVERY man he faced and was bettered by nobody in terms of ability...almost unique.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Riddick Bowe may very well have beaten Lennox Lewis in 1993 or somewhere thereabouts. But I wouldn't be too quick to jump all over the McCall fight as verification of that. Lewis had already emphatically beaten much better fighters than Oliver, and I think we'd be remiss if we didn't consider "complacency" as being a factor in that loss. Also Emmanuel Steward was in McCall's corner for that fight and they had spent weeks working on that punch which ultimately did him in... Bowe wasn't exactly stellar in beating Tony Tubbs..And Holyfield despite having less power than Lewis, had him hurt. This would have been an excellent matchup and one that I wouldn't want to put too much money on.
     
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  9. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes lets not forget the genius of Futch. I gave the Tubbs fight to Bowe by a point or two, haven't seen it in a few years. Lewis was not a slick boxer and had many flaws, he could be outboxed and outbrawled, and Bowe was superior in both areas. 96 Lewis is a much more competitive bout. This isn't a shot Tyrell Biggs, but perhaps the most motivated version of Bowe ever. He wanted to avenge that Olympic loss, Lewis's power is being slightly overrated. He couldn't finish Holy, Mercer, a shot Tyson, or Marovic, whatever that european guys name was. No way Lewis ever stops Bowe, no way. Lennox was techinally inept at this point, he gets outclassed.
     
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  10. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You seem to have more confidence in a Bowe victory than even Bowe had himself.
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    Lewis finished Tyson and those other guys had better defence than Bowe. Bowe had NO defence at all that's why he retired with brain injuries at 29 years old. Holyfield hit Bowe with 60% of his power punches. If Bowe let Lewis do that then he would be surely knocked out. Lewis knocked Bowe out in the Olympics and should have gotten a chance to do it again int pros but Bowe and his team were scared.
     
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  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1991 all the way to 1996, Bowe beats this pathetic pretender into dreamland like this :dead

    We all seen him go to sleep by two mediocrities IN HIS PRIME!

    no need to pretend it didnt happen

    which all leads to this conclusion: hit him on the chin and he'll fall down and stay down

    Bowe would get in his chest and crowd him, backing him up and out tough him until control conscious Lewis falls prey to Bowe's superior stamina N gentics

    Lewis, an ordinary title holder with a forgettable reign against forgettable opposition, doesn't even KNOW how to fight on the inside!

    as for that stoppage in the amateurs, :lol:

    one of the worst most premature stoppages even for amateur fights (one that Lewis like to hang onto and blow way out of proportion)
     
  12. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe doesn't have the footwork to get in his chest. If he wins, he wins a different way but what it isn't is a fight with Bowe say walking down Lennox and forcing him to spend a majority of the round with his back on the ropes.

    I don't like Bowe's defense whatsoever against the type of right hands this opponent throws. And I sure don't like the Bowe wide wide right hand leads he threw from the outside compared to the straight right hand this guy threw. He'll get beat to the punch.

    I think Bowe needs much better footwork/defense/and a straight right hand to effectively matchup with this opponent.
     
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  13. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    in 93 bowe no problem ...prime for prime different story
     
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  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    When did this happen?

    17 year old inexperienced Bowe was beating Lewis who was in his second Olympics before the ref called it off prematurely in the second round with Bowe not even hurt or staggered.
     
  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Good post. Bowe had another two belts to his name. Newman made plenty of offers to Lewis without the involvmet of the WBC. Lewis was happy to take his belt out of the bin as advised to him by King who had wone purse bids over the fight. King and Lewis were stalling and making unrelealistic demands to Newman knowing that Bowe would be stripped.
    Bowe dumped the belt before they could strip him.