Riddick Bowe vs Lennox Lewis 1993

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  1. superman1692

    superman1692 Active Member Full Member

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    You're seriously using that farce of a fight as a benchmark?? You should be facepalming for yourself. Idiot.
     
  2. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    who says?

    He took it to Holyfield and won that way twice and would give Lewis worse problems

    and since when is footwork critical to fighting on the inside? Lewis is strictly a long range fighter, using his one two while Bowe can fight both ways. Bowe also has more heart than Lewis. note the way he came back from trouble in Holyfield 3

    Lewis couldnt do that

    When he was dropped in his two KO losses, notice that he didnt get up to win like Bowe?

    It would be a very physical fight and a grueling one, a fight that favors Bowe's style and it would happen becuz Bowe knows how to make it happen

    The assault unleahsed on Holyfield took in the 11th round of their first fight, wouldve vaporized Lewis becuz Lennox doesnt have nearly the same ability to absorb sustained punishment as Evander
     
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  3. Redman

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    Lewis knew Bowe didn't want to fight, they were both in a heavyweight tourny and both of them had reached the final of it, the fight was there for Bowe. If he was so sure he would beat Lewis then the fight would have happened, it didn't happen because Bowe simply didn't want it.

    Lewis even predicted this on live TV with everyone watching.

    If anyone should have wanted the fight to happen it should have been Bowe, he was the one disgruntled about the olympics, he was the one giving it all the mouth, he was the one who should have been looking to avenge.

    There's absolutely no way I can pick a guy who blatantly ducked the fight as much as Bowe did, so on that bombshell Lewis knocks Bowe the **** out with his superior footwork, handspeed, accuracy and timing.
     
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  4. Redman

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    Didn't get chance to because the Don King wbc ref called it off against McCall.

    Comparing Holyfield to Lewis is beyond idiotic, two totally different fighters in style and physicality.

    Lewis proved he could take a dig and comeback and hang in there against the likes of Mercer, Briggs, Grant, Bruno, Vitali etc.

    The thing with Lewis is he was smarter than Bowe, he would have out-thought him so he didn't have to out-fight him.
     
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  5. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was responding to a guy that claimed Lewis didn't finish Tyson. As I recall Lennox gave Mike by far the worst beating of his career. You say Tyson was shot but he was still good enough to be the WBC #1 contender. The fact that you stoop to pejoratives to emphasis a fallacious point shows your lack of intelligence. Keep it up. :good
     
  6. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the second raters Lewis had to hang in there with wouldve been blown out by Bowe

    personally I think that if Vitali hadnt been so badly cut, he wouldve won that fight

    let's also not forget that a very faded Evander, held Lewis to a draw in '99

    Bowe wouldnt give Lewis a chance to think, and that would be his problem. Like I said, this is a physical fight, not a thinking man's fight, and the physical fight is Bowe's all the way
     
  7. MAJR

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    So your argument is that if Lennox Lewis hadn't damaged Vitali's face with his punches forcing the doctor to stop it then Vitali would have won. Good story.

    The top rated heavyweight and P4P #3 Evander Holyfield got away with a bull**** robbery draw in a fight against Lewis that everyone agreed he lost in 1999. Dont try to act as if that draw was anything other than one of the worst calls in boxing history.
     
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  8. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well, the KO win over Bowe in the amateurs was a bull**** stoppage, politics

    but it's okay becuz it happened in the amateurs where it didnt really matter

    Had cuts not been a factor, Vitali seemed to be more than holding his own. The cuts saved him

    A faded Bowe did better against Evander than Lennox did against him three years later. See the difference in class?

    Everything Lewis did, Bowe did better and wouldve eaten him alive on the inside. Lennox only boxes well from a comfortable distance but as Vitali showed, once you crowd him, he is much less effective and doesnt fight well on the inside where Bowe thrives
     
  9. Seamus

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    I would favor Lewis heavily. Bowe's rep was overly bolstered by his trio with the undersized an inconsistent Holyfield. Bowe was sloppy, often ill prepared and not a great adjuster in the ring. Lewis also had better physical gifts.
     
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  10. The Long Count

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    Strategically speaking Eddie Futch would have made a difference, Lewis had clumsy feet and it would have been exploited by turning him and making him reach. Having said that, the belts in the dumpster charade was Busch league. Many tv stations in America supported the charade including espn. Bowe's stock was very high at the time, winning a classic against Holyfield, Lewis was not viewed as the threat he would become when he improved. Not much emphasis was placed on the Olympic result by the mainstream media. Newman wanted no part of Lennox Lewis and Bowe didn't fight for that match to get made. He was happy to trash the belts, I think his confidence in such a match up was lacking. At the time they pulled their garbage Pail stunt, I don't believe they felt it would tarnish Bowe's legacy as much as it would later prove to. They probably felt Lewis would lose like he did to McCall and would be forgotten. However after that as Lewis continued to win and improve and Bowe to expand and diminish the duck grew worse and worse and the Olympic result gained more credence in the media as to why Lewis was avoided. In the end Bowe got what he deserved for that publicity stunt. Irreparable damage to his image. Something well earned by a classless team (Futch aside) with an undedicated fighter.
     
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  11. Seamus

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    Totally agree about this in his latter years. In 93 he was comparatively nimble. Still, Bowe would abandon Futch's game plan and fall into Lewis' game plan within a few rounds. Bowe seemed not to believe in game plans and just revert to winging that sloppy overhand right. Too bad, he had talent.
     
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  12. tennis

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    Bowed loses to Lewis

    Lewis hits big
    Is fast
    A most of all had the smarts a lot of hws just don't have
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis has talent too. the problem is he cant fight on the inside and he has no chin and was knocked out twice IN HIS PRIME by two ham N eggers and was extended to a draw by undersized Evander Holyfield who three years earlier was flattened by a nearly washed up Bowe

    Did u see it? It was a great fight while it lasted and Bowe showed everyone including Lewis what heart is

    I would say Bowe won the first few rounds, outboxing Evander unitl the real deal caught big Daddy and put him on the floor. it looked like RB was finished. Lewis would have been, had he dared to rise

    But Bowe was cut from a higher stock. Evander moved in to try and finish but thanks to RB's adaptability, Evander couldnt close in. RB's 10 straight jabs to the face helped give him the time he needed to clear his head and before the end of the round, he was back in command!

    the fight concluded when Evander decided he wanted to rumble. But Nobody rumbles like Riddick! seconds later, the fight ended predictably with Bowe standing and Evander lying prostate
     
  14. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow you are bias as ****. Evander would have finished Bowe in the 6th if he wasn't sick and tired from the Hep A. Dude could barely keep his arms up after the 5th round. Evander in good health would have clearly beaten him that night.

    As a previous poster mentioned Lewis Holyfield 1 was a straight up robbery. Worse than Pac vs Bradley. Lewis won at least 9 rounds but you still are willfully ignorant to that truth.

    Yeah Bowe had "heart" which really just means no defence and low ring IQ.
    What great fighters did Bowe face besides Holyfield three times? Why did he duck Lewis?

    What about Golota destroying Bowe twice only to be flattened by Lewis a few months later? Really throws a wrench in your argument there.

    If Chicken Bowe had the stones to fight Lennox then we really would have seen his "heart" on display. Lewis TKO 4 :rasta
     
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  15. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that's not what the tape shows. the tape shows Evander trying to put the finisher on Bowe but Bowe, one of the smartest fighters you'll ever see, stuck his mammoth left in Evander's face, and stymied him until his head cleared then took back control

    it was really big Daddy's fight all the way but I thought it was great becuz Big Daddy got to display his heart which is what Lewis doesnt have

    To his credit, Lewis does have height and reach which works in his favor becuz everyone who he decisions, is so much smaller than him

    but not Bowe who is just about the same height and would DEFINTELY get on the inside and mess Lewis up. Once Big Daddy gets inside, Lennox is all his

    unlike your ridiculous prediction which is SO BAD, it borders on fantasy, I'll go with Bowe in the 11th (we've all seen Lewis laying on the floor before so it comes as no surprise)