The Parrying Guard

I think it can work out when you have the reach or speed advantage. While your hands are out there you can sort of control the opponents gloves, kind of like sticky hands (hand trapping) in kung fu where you feel and redirect the hands of the opponent to create an opening or setup a counter. Of course if you hold the opponents glove while you hit him you can be called for hitting and holding, but if your jab should happen to bump his glove outta the way for you to nail him with the other hand or when you pull the jab back it gets "stuck" on the opponents power hand, nullifying it and moving it outta the way, once again for the other hand, and if it happens fast enough no one will notice, probably not even your opponent. And if your glove is touching the opponents glove you will know when he moves to strike quicker from feeling it than your eyes can tell you. Doesn't mean you'll know exactly where he's gonna punch, but your hand will already be out there to counter. If you can generate the power through your hips without moving your hand back (loading up) you can stop the hooks from landing on you and push him back, no matter how big he is. The quickest path is a straight line, but people **** this up by pulling back before punching and not only telegraphing the punch, but making it take longer to reach the target. I think with this style you must stay very aware and have good reflexes and it's because of those hooks. You have to punish him for even attempting the hooks so he stops trying them. This will maximize the strengths of the Parrying Guard and minimize the risk of the weakness against hooks.

If I was fighting against this style, I would use a swarming style (if I had the stamina) or a peek-a-boo/crouch and try to use head movement and footwork to get inside of the extended arms and hook the **** outta the guy with my best Joe Frazier or Mike Tyson impersonation. Or if I had a quicker jab, I would try to **** him off a bit with some of the ole pepper up the nose, back up in a gradually slower tempo to try to get him to over reach (since he's already got his hands far out) and then shift gears forward with my center of gravity low and bash into him while he's trying to gain his balance. If you can't land a good shot bump him with your shoulder while he's fumbling about to knock some of the wind out of him and to create an opening. Attack. If he's smaller or your own size sustain the attack. If he's much bigger, attack and get out before he regains his balance.

Just my two cents.

 

I watched one of the kids at my gym using this today.
I'll have to coach him some more because as you mentioned, he blocked the straight punches but was wide open for hooks to the head and body shots.

It's a pretty one-dimensional guard. I don't recommend using it ALL the time. If you do, you must make sure you see all punches coming, and are quick enough to move the hand forward or backward to guard against both straight punches and hooks. Newbies should avoid it. They tend to feel "safer" with the hand in front of their face, but they don't defend well against punches, due to natural reflexes to turn away or close their eyes.

I only use this guard after I throw punches at close range, and want to avoid being countered on the way out.

Honestly, I think this guard should only be used by more experienced boxers. Newbies need to stick to the basics - forget this guard, or the philly shell or other "cool" looking flashy guards. More advanced fighters can use this, because they know WHEN to use it.

 

if you have good amateur with elasticity, he needs punches in bunches with clunches not guards, blocks, head movement and foot work!

 

...clunches?

 

clinch atsch the problem with the Philly shell, cross armed defense, peek a boo, parry guard, high elbow guard, is that it is ****ing hard to hit off of. This includes rolling, bobbing and weaving.

 

Are you saying that it is hard to punch from the so-called Philly shell, or that it is hard to punch while rolling, bobbing/weaving?

 

After sparring today and been practicing this guard...

I only switch to this guard if I'm tired and I'm trying to catch my breathe since I feel it gives me a better defense cause my hands have less distance to travel in order to intercept his punches. Of course, if you miss one, your wide open and about to get blasted.

All in all, it's a nice tool to have but not one I'm gonna rely on.

 

the shell doesn't work for most people since you gotta be quick to use it. Remember the rear leg is well behind the rear shoulder making the right hand much slower to get off, that being said the punch is harder the moment it lands. The modern stance see sugarboxing.com allows for the right hand to get off much quicker. Hence most gyms have adapted to the modern stance.Bobbing and weaving is hard to hit off of because most people roll too slowly.:hat

 

That is not true at all. In fact, quickness does not play into it much at all because you don't have to move much to defend against punches. You just left your left shoulder to roll the right hand which you can see coming for about a mile. It isn't quickness at all, but timing that is important. If you stand properly the rear foot is under the rear shoulder and you can get that hand off as quickly as you need to- watch James Toney fight.
Bobbing and weaving is not hard to hit off of, not if you understand balance. In other words, if you do it properly. It used to be taught that you hit with the move; in other words, for example, hook to the body as you bob outside a punch, then land the right to the body as you weave back under the same punch. That was the foundation of what used to be called "the Dempsey triples." As a LW Shane Mosley used those types of moves.
If anything, the modern stance- with a fighter mostly square to an opponent-came about from the 'peekaboo' style, where the idea is that, by being square, you can hit faster (but less hard) with the right and a bit slower but harder with the left. This style requires quickness because you now have to react to straight punches as your head is right out front and your hands are up to block hooks. Also makes you more open to uppercuts.

 

your right about it being a harder punch! see " Anatomy of a one punch knock out" dailymotion.com

 

do you know where I might learn the dempsey triples?

 

Here, pg 86 on. He refers to them as the inside and outside triples
http://www.scribd.com/doc/23474892/Boxing-by-Edwin-L-Haislet