BoxNation subscriber numbers

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Black_Rainbows, Jun 27, 2014.


  1. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    Well i for one dont know how to stream. I do have a laptop as well as int access on my phone. I would class myself as computer illiterate.
    Surfing the web is as far as i go. But at home in my home ent system i have sony 3d tv. Full cinema sound as well as triton ax pro 5.1 headsets. Sky hd. Xb1 console. No BnW tv.
    Its just silly to say that anyone who doesnt know how to stream is likely to be watching tv on a black n white.
     
  2. Pro Punter

    Pro Punter Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You must be on a fishing trip mate.

    No haul yet :lol:
     
  3. Black_Rainbows

    Black_Rainbows Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Er, no. Those words are perfectly compatible with subscribers at one time.

    And actually, the "we've had up to" could suggest exactly that.

    He did as far as I'm concerned.
     
  4. Black_Rainbows

    Black_Rainbows Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can't really take the moral high ground, when you are suggesting to people to steal from the promoters/fighters.

    If everyone steals the fights, then there would be far fewer opportunities and paydays for British boxers. (And also less money going to international promoters/boxers.)

    And yes, money from BoxNation does get to the boxers or they simply wouldn't have any shows if they weren't paying out any money.

    So yeah, not everyone wants to:

    (1) steal money away from British boxers
    (2) deal with dodgy streams
     
  5. Black_Rainbows

    Black_Rainbows Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You probably don't need that big a desire for a boxing channel, as the sports rights don't cost anything like e.g. football does.

    BoxNation is relatively cheap TV right? You wouldn't need millions of subscribers to fund it...
     
  6. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If it is inexpensive Sky would have kept the coverage?

    I was told the Khan - Diaz fight for example cost as much as £300k. Whether that's in pounds or dollars I'm not sure but that's a huge amount for a single event on a subscription channel.

    I would love for BN to continue, but the UK content needs major improvement. They are keeping the hardcore fans based on the international cards but they won't entice new viewers unless their UK based stuff picks up significantly.

    Then again when they are paying Tyson over 7 figures to fight Chisora you have to question their business sense in any case.
     
  7. Black_Rainbows

    Black_Rainbows Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They got crap ratings and didn't care about it.

    I'm pretty sure Sky could afford the sport if they really wanted.

    I heard they were paying about 40k for Jermain Taylor, (when MW champion) which isn't much compared to what they spend on football.

    It's not "huge" compared to football prices. Thing with Khan, is that he is a name in the UK, so they would probably put on subscribers for that particular fight.

    They can improve the domestic stuff no doubt.
     
  8. Black_Rainbows

    Black_Rainbows Well-Known Member Full Member

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  9. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Comparing football and boxing is like comparing oranges and apples. Reality is that football brings in subscribers, boxing doesn't (or certainly not to the extent that it has a major bearing on Sky's numbers). The difference in the impact of removing boxing from their sporting schedule compared with removing football is so vast it's not even worth discussing.

    I can only assume you meant that £/$300k for Sky isn't much? The reason I say that is BN came to my former employers in order to discuss potentially raising funding in order to secure the money to get the Khan fight. Hell FW discussed securing the loan against paintings etc.

    This was pre-Bill Ives I might add.

    For me personally, the channel won't grow without improved UK content, but the costs involved are such that it's hard to see how they'd recoup their investment.
     
  10. Black_Rainbows

    Black_Rainbows Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let's imagine that BoxNation have 120k subscribers for the sake of argument. Let's imagine that they hope to put on an extra 20k subscribers for a Khan fight. (All seems plausible to me.)

    In that context, then 300k for a Khan fight isn't that much. It's affordable.

    So as I say, I don't think they need that large a subscriber base.
     
  11. Pro Punter

    Pro Punter Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It is dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed

    Doomed I say
     
  12. Naturalmass

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    It might be doomed but as long as it's available and the quality international cards are regular items on the programmers schedule they can have my monthly subscription in a heart beat.
     
  13. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Boxnation has a better stable of fighters than Sky, Look at the fighters who fight on Sky and Boxnation.
     
  14. Pro Punter

    Pro Punter Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A stable full of horses sh it led by journeyman DullBoy Chisora
     
  15. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Terminator_X's alt login I take it?

    He tried to argue anyone who appeared on BN was part of the BN stable. :lol:

    Wonder if Mayweather got that memo.