2014 Floyd Vs 2014 Pac, Who Wins?

if,ortiz, can get duckweather in a defensive style IMAGINE PACMAN......

 

Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt he against the ropes against ortiz. And ortiz couldnt hit him so he got frustrated and headbutted him.

 

macne, rios, and bradley (loading up on every shot), all have decent to good power.

theftjr will not sit on his punches as he will be moving constantly.

pac will put too much pressure on those legs the way he put pressure on bradley's.

theftjr cant move for 12 rounds and cant rest on the ropes against southpaws.

just watch madona ang guerrerou fights. stark difference when he cant roll the power shot.

even if he stays in the outside, he cant wait to counter because he cant roll the straight left.

he will be offensive just like he always fight against southpaws.

but pac can trade with him and will look to trade with him.


i view this fight largely as an offense vs. offense, and i favor pac.

 

ortiz is converted southpaw.

 

Mayweather 2009-2016 beats Packy

 

Remember how confident Floyd fans were before the Maidana fight? They thought it laughable that Manny would be able to do anything against Floyd. Now y'all aren't so sure since Maidana gave him a run.

I still think Floyd takes it, but like I have always said, Manny could give him a lot of problems as he is still much faster and slightly more skilled than Maidana. I think the key is in how Manny reacts to being countered and how long it takes Floyd to be comfortable to throw counters with some pop.

 

this sounds like a biased opinion.

i can also say pac is another level, aint worth nothing without backing the statment.

youre not discussing how his ability is going to overwhelm pac.

your view about theftjr's boxing ability is largely based on him fighting orthodox, bec majority of his fights are against orthodox.

when you make blanket statements like boxing ability, it's a reference to all his fights, most of which were against orthodox.

you have to limit your views on his fights against southpaws.
he doesnt box southpaws, he fights them, even ortrezz, maybe with guerrerou as a an exception, coz he is flatfooted and easy to get around with.

as soon as he sees guerrerou is looking to unload the left, he was gone.

even then, you ddidnt see him lay on the ropes for extended period of time as opposed to a madona fight.

i dotn think he can hurt pac, and worse he will be moving constantly which means the impact his featherfisted punch will even be lesser.


pac has shown he can still fight at high pace recently, i dont think theftjr can anymore. he needs his rest and pac will not give him that.

 

threads and talks like this are pointless.

hypothetical wins don't count.

 

Yeah i hate all this bollix bout who is ducking who and all the bias towards the past negotiations. The truth is nobody knows why this fight hasnt really happened sept pac and may. So they are both ducking each other. Definately. If one of them really really wanted to prove they are the best well then they could do everything in there power to get this fight made. Show up at each others fights and press conferences etc. Just keep on hasseling until the other person has no choice but to fight through embarresment of ducking. Neither of them do this. Neither of them really really want it. All we here from them is reasons why the fight is not happening and how the other is ducking. I dont give a **** if you dont like needles or you dont like bob arum. Just shut the **** up with excuses and fight!!!! And money split!!!! If u cant negotiate then grow a pair and do 70- 30 to the winner!!!This could be the biggest fight of all time. IT IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO THE SPORT OF BOXING THAT IT HASNT HAPPENED. The money the fans put in these to fighters pockets is unreal. They have both let the fans and sport down by not fightimg each other. This fight could could even make boxing more mainstream the way it was in ali times. The amount of casuals it would attract would be insane. How often do i get p4p 1 and 2 in the same division. The truth is both may and pac are amazing fighters but they are BOTH a pair of duckers and have let the fans and sport down.

 

i think we need more theftjr threads. he just lost 1.4m buys.

 

Nothing's changed from 2009 and forward regarding Pacman's and PBF's styles to have me change opinions. PBF by UD

 

it makes floms feel good about themselves when they can make blanket statements like, theftjr is the best defensvie boxer in his generation or maybe ever, or theftjr's boxing ability is on another level without explaining how those defense/boxing ability will translate to fighting a guy like pac, southpaw with speed and power.

it feels like *****s need to convince themselves theftjr can win.

when theftjr himself doesnt believe it, it needs really good effort to convince people otherwise.

and *****s arent doing a good job on it.

 

You're still judging Pacquiao based on his ability in 2009-2011. Pacquiao doesn't fight as he used to and sadly he won't even if he goes through a vicious training camp. Pacquiao is still coming off a brutal KO loss and appears to be gun shy at times due to that brutal KO and KOs like that will always leave a mark on a fighter especially when the fighter isn't young anymore.

Pacquiao will mostly fight from the outside and his attacks will be calculated and rare here and there without throwing in combinations as he used to. Sure he might throw combinations here and there but they won't be consistent.