Your Personal Favourite heavyweight.

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  1. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    Who was or is he ?
    Why ?
    Doesn't have to be someone who was great.
    Just your favourite....and why ?
    Nobody has to be right or wrong..just your choice and an article as to why ?
     
  2. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Joe Frazier.

    I still have not seen a heavyweight fight the way he did. The energy that he put out was very rare. He was non stop motion almost like a heavyweight Henry Armstrong. He had to work so hard to get inside of opponents that stood 6-3 or 6-4 and sometimes had 10 or 15lbs on him. It took alot of determination but also skill on Joe Frazier`s part.

    There was nothing crude about his game. Joe was a precise, accurate puncher and a skilled inside fighter. His quickness was slightly under rated as well as his defense moving in. Sure he got hit but not always as cleanly as some casual fans might have thought. He rolled and slipped under many shots. He protected that chin better than he was given credit for.

    I also think Joe was a good dude. His work ethic was from another era and he never acted like he was better than the average person on the street. Joe was a people`s champion.

    Joe had the honor of a real champion. When he lost the Thrilla In Manila rather than fight a mid level guy he gets back in the ring with George Foreman who had KOd him brutally in 1973. You wouldnt see that today. Joe was old school. He had uncommon courage.

    That is just a few of the reasons why Joe is my favorite fighter in any division.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Willuam The Prussian Sherriff
     
  4. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Prime Holyfield, the way he carried himself, calm cool demeanor, never say die attitude..
     
  5. grumpy old man

    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's like asking me to choose between my children.

    I'll take Ali, but with apologies to all my other favourites.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Jack Dempsey
     
  7. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    ETM....great post on Frazier...
    That's the kind of post i was hoping for with this thread
     
  8. grumpy old man

    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Joe is one of everybody's favourites.
     
  9. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    Beautiful writing ETM! Thanks for taking the time to flesh that out!

    For me...Joe Louis or Sonny Liston. Gun to my head?...
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    Just a perfect boxing machine. He was/is hated and underated yet all he did was get in there and bang heads. Wonderful Jab, right hand, underated footwork, hooks, uppercuts and mean-spirited. Clay did what he did but no one else could deal with him. Even when he got back in the ring after Lewis, Maine he was still breaking necks.

    I know he quit and all that but, I still hold him high because he is such a fascinating character and all out war machine.
     
  10. PillowKnuckles

    PillowKnuckles Member Full Member

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    This, just the heart that guy had. If there was no referee to stop a fight after a couple consecutive knockdowns, I bet that you could knock Joe down 25 times he would still get up and be in your face. Those fellas who won fights almost purely on their heart can only be adored.

    And he really seemed like a nice guy who did his job like any other man. He said in one of his last interviews that he doesn't like to talk about his fighting days with his family and friends since he didn't like to look back, only forward.
     
  11. grumpy old man

    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I read a pretty informative book Joe wrote called "Box Like The Pros."

    In it he referred to the left hand as SEEK and the right hand as DESTROY.

    Not over complicated :good
     
  12. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    As you guys know..my own is Tyrell Biggs.
    Not a man blessed with natural self confidence or a fighters mentality he is a fascinating study.
    A quality basketball player in his teens he took up amateur boxing.Despite addictive issues he won the World champs in 1982 and Olympic gold in 1984.
    Signed with Duva he went 15-0. His heart was often questioned although i dont know why.
    He beat Jeff Simm (ranked 8) with one arm having broken a collarbone early.As good a display of boxing and courage as you will see.
    A narrow win over Snipes saw him in with David Bey as a tune up for Tyson.Suffered a terrible cut against Bey before stoping him.No doubt the Duva camp took the Tyson fight to get a payday whilst they could.
    His effort v Tyson was credible.He had to take a year off for the eye to heal but his comeback versus Damiani in Italy was a poor choice...again Duva going for the money...fight ended on a cut...from there things went downhill..although wins against Occasion and Marin and a great losing effort v Bowe showed his talent.
    Too nice a guy to be a fighter and didnt look after his money.
    My admiration stems from knowing that this was a guy with many frailties but watching him give his best with some greats in a top era.
    Now teaches young kids in Philly...but has very little to show for his career and ended up back home with parents......sad.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The People's Champion when Frazier was champ was Muhammad Ali not Frazier.

    After beating Ali in 1971 Frazier defended his title against two unrated journeymen , Stander and Daniels, it was 2 years before he fought a rated contender in1973.
    I would agree he was a fine man , and that he had uncommon courage.
     
  14. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Big fan of Tyson

    But recently come to appreciate both Holyfield and Lewis. Especially Lewis, always cool, calm, collected and a very intelligent fighter and he had that beautiful right hand as well
     
  15. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am also going with joe frazier , strong , single minded and more skilled than a lot give him credit for and managed to keep his dignity when provoked beyond levels of good taste even for boxing .


    Honourable mention's
    Larry Holmes - loved watching him box pure skill

    Jack Dempsey - simply ferocious a demon on legs

    And just missing out on top spot joe Louis - a wonderful boxer who set traps

    Two lesser heavies

    Cooney - killer hook and what might have been

    Bruno - bbbbbbbbbbrrrrrrrruuuuuuunnnnnnooooooooo