The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

manny, has no say in his career. source, BOB ARUM FIXED NOW!

 

It's one-upmanship.

When there wasn't a shred of evidence, why would Manny have agreed to all of Floyd's testing depends?

Demanding that a fighter be tested with no proof, when nobody else had an issue? WOW! What a great idea!

 

Of course you know. It's in the same dayum article I've posted for you multiple times with Dr. Caitlin destroying your stupid claim against blood testing.

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showpost.php?p=15375767&postcount=8603

Man, this is shameful. :verysad

 

Little girls take that test. What's the problem again? Manny could have figuratively slapped Floyd in the face and maybe beat his ass in the ring. Martinez took his beating like a man for lower pay. Cotto has had to succumb to Pacquiao and Floyd demands. JMM always has to agree to Manny's demands. Bradley had to agree to Manny's demands. Manny bitched out plain and simple.

 

Robert, both guys were at fault.

Manny should never have wanted 50-50, that was a mistake.

But don't keep saying Manny ran.

Because Floyd not granting Manny his cut off days, is not the definition of a guy running away.

That isn't been objective.

Think about it for a second.

Manny didn't run, he just wouldn't agree with what Floyd wanted.

But you can spin that around, and say that Floyd wouldn't agree with what Manny wanted.

You can say that Manny is responsible for the fight not happening, because he wouldn't agree to Floyd's demands.

Likewise, you can say that Floyd was responsible, because he wouldn't agree to Manny's demands.

 

Article was posted on Jan. 8th. Pacquiao signed to fight Clottey on Jan 9th. So, what exactly are you talking about? :huh

 

As soon as this thread gets moved, and swallowed up in the mega thread, I'm off.

 

What exactly did Pac compromise on? Floyd agreed to $10M/lb penalty. He agreed to 14 day cuttoff instead of ridiculous 30 days.

 

You have just shown, that you haven't got the intelligence to have an educated and objective debate.

After reading your opening line, it's completely pointless taking this any further.

 

We agree for once. "LITTLE GIRLS TAKE THE TEST". Straight and to the point. Can't deny it. No need for BS psycho analysis babble.

 

What are you talking about?

Neither guy would budge.

So they went separate ways.

But Manny ended up backing down, and giving into Floyd.

What happened at that point?

What happened when Manny backed down?

Nothing.

Because Floyd still wouldn't budge.

Now give me one logical reason, why after Manny and his huge ego backed down, that Floyd couldn't also have done the same?

 

Don't reply to me again, unless you want a serious debate.

 

What did he compromise on?

For real?

How about AGREEING TO BE TESTED IN THE FIRST PLACE, when nobody had any proof, and nobody else had an issue fighting Manny?

Ha!

You think Floyd (who has NEVER had a weight issue) accepting a weight clause, is the same as having your camp broken up, by being randomly blood tested?

They're hardly like for like demands are they?

I'll be honest though, Manny's request was ridiculous in my opinion. Which proves to me it was one-upmanship.

 

the correct answer is that Manny should have agreed to testing up to the day of the fight. As a true fan of Pacs and not just some cult-member of *******s, I realized that in the long run it looks bad on Pac . . . like he had something to hide. Eventually, he walked away from the biggest fight in 25 years over a couple of drops of blood, when the water was bloodied and it could have actually been done.

Of course the cult will say things like "Floyd never asked anyone else for testing up to that point . . . but Pac asked Rios (even though he never failed a drug test)."

Or "who is he to demand testing" . . . the guy entering into the ring with Pac, thats who.

Or "Pac agreed to testing all along!" . . . just not the testing Floyd requested.

or finally, "he eventually agreed to testing a couple of years later but by then Floyd moved the goal post" . . . no silly rabbits, the market moved the goal post. Pac wanted the original deal but things changed over time.

oh yeah . . . but-but-but now floyd said Arum is now the problem, when did that happen? when did anyone demand someone dump their promoter?If you would have listened to those ho been around the game for more than a couple of years, most have been saying Arum was the problem all along and Promoters get fighters to sign deals with them all the time for a big fight

If Pac agreed to additional (like evander did against Tyson) the fight would have happen back in 2010.

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When did Manny budge? is this something he said a interview or at the actual negotiating? According to the time line, best offer was 14 days. Pac denied. It started a uproar & many questioning pac, so Pac took Floyd to court.

Aside from the first negotiations, when did other negotiations take place? Bob Arum putting a time clock on floyd was not it.

Both camps left on bad terms, with the feeling of "F*ck you I don't need you either" , both not wanting to work with each other.

I think in my opinion Pac dropped the ball on the fight when it actually did have a chance of being made. I don't understand why extensive blood testing is too much to ask for in a brutal combat sport for the biggest pay day in boxing history.

Everything said after the first negotiations has just been talk, no serious attempt has been made after.