The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

why did floyd have no problem accepting the 10 million dollar per pound weight penalty then asses? who failed to make weight once, was it not that self righteeous, tax dodging, adulterous, fake christian & prostitute user pac himself!!

 

People need to be reminded too that the 24-day cut-off only came up because Manny and Arum got caught blatantly lying about the blood testing for the Hatton fight. Top Rank never moved one inch on the blood testing issue in the interest of making the fight; they merely went from 30 to 24 because they would have looked even worse if they hadn't.

That along with Bob's unilateral breaking up of mediation and lying about what happened sure is indicative of a good faith effort to make a fight!

 

Bang on!


Floyd had plenty of opportunities to say that he would like all future opponents to be tested.

But he never said that.

The media asked him about a potential fight with Manny in 2009, and testing wasn't even on his mind.

He was only on a mission to clean up the sport after his father's outburst.

That's why I don't blame Manny for not agreeing to everything.

If Floyd had asked for other opponents to be tested, and they'd have complied, or the commission had asked Manny and he'd refused etc, then I'd have been the first one to jump on him.

But that's not what happened.

The Mayweather's implied Manny was dirty, and a guy with a huge ego, wasn't going to back down and give in to Floyd like that.

Seriously, why would he have wanted his camp disrupting, without any concessions, just based on unsubstantiated claims by Floyd Snr?


This will definitely be my last detailed post on the subject.

But just before I go, here's something to think about:


A lot of people think that Manny wanted 24 days because he wanted to cheat.

But how realistic was that?


I've done the following breakdown before, yet I never receive much feedback.

Manny would have had a 9 week plus camp.


So let's suppose he wanted to cheat.

In weeks 1 through to 6, he'd have been randomly blood and urine tested at any point.

So he'd have been stupid to try anything.

That leaves him with around three weeks left.

According to Dr. Caitlin, it was theoretically possible that Manny could have used with 24 clear days.

But that theory didn't take into account Manny's offer of an immediate after fight blood test.

So realistically, Manny had less than three weeks to use, out of a 9 week plus camp.


So how realistic is it, that a guy would use just three weeks out of 9/10?

There's never been any proof that Manny has been dirty, and we've seen an interview from 2005 (four years earlier than a potential fight with Floyd was ever discussed) saying that he was weakened against Morales.

So again, all things considered, how likely was it that Manny would have done something within that cut off period?

It seems highly unlikely in my opinion.


At the end of the day, Manny didn't even have to compromise. He could have just flatly refused to take any tests.

But he agreed, if he could have his cut off days.

So IMHO, Floyd could have granted him those days, with an after fight test, also with a clause written into the contract, that stated if anything appeared, he wouldn't receive his purse.


I don't know what you think, but I just can't see how Manny is/was guilty, because he wouldn't agree to Floyd's testing demands.

I hate it when people say that Manny ran from testing. Because Manny not agreeing to Floyd's cut off days, and Floyd not agreeing to Manny's cut off days, does not mean that he ran. He didn't run, both fighters went separate ways, because they couldn't reach a compromise.


If you criticise Manny, you're labelled a *****.

If you criticise Floyd, you're labelled a *******.

It's ridiculous.


It seems that it's too hard to have an educated, objective debate on here.



I'm out.

Nice debating with you all. :good

 

Robert, apart from deliberately coming in heavy against JMM, when has Floyd EVER had a weight issue?

Floyd agreeing to pay a fine if he was heavy, (which would never have happened) was not the same, as agreeing to have your camp disrupted by randomly giving blood and urine.

Both of those scenarios are completely different.


Anyway, have a good weekend.

 

Who cares why Floyd demanded the testing. That is irrelevant.

Demanding extra testing is only ever a good thing. Floyd demanded it. It didn't get accepted.

We moved on without the fight. Or, some of us have while others haven't, I should say.

 

Yes. Mayweather explicitly stated after that it's a deal that will never come again. Pac should've just manned up and did it.

Hearns, and Tyson said go ahead. Pac sued and ducked like Lance Armstrong. BS

 

go back to *****hook boxing, ***** trash :fire


:tong

 

The site is down or else I would you **** face.

 

*****s cant take a joke :roll:

 

floyd never offered the 14 day cutoff when it mattered.

 

So why can I take you?

 

That's simply some unsubstantiated silliness you've pulled out of you arse AFTER I posted those Caitlin and Conte articles for you in the past when we've talked about this subject.

At that point, Manny proposal (unlimited urine, blood cutoff for 24 days til post fight) was public knowledge. If Caitlin KNEW that Pacquiao's team wanted a 24 day window, what makes you think he was unaware of the post fight blood test?

Conte already addressed what could be done in such a short window.

Lastly, I'll pose the question no one defending Pac's position seems to want to answer:

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Does not the same 'how likely was it that (Fighter X) would have done something within that cut off period' question apply to Rios (and JMM for a potential 5th fight)?

Why are you condoning Pac leveraging VADA protocols on fighters with no history of failed tests while simultaneously continuing to defend Pac for turning down those same 'excessive' tests in favor of his 'sufficient' protocols, which he himself seems to have no interest in implementing?

The hypocrisy is incredible.

 

:roll: you wish

 

Who are you on hook?

 

WTF, does you analogy have to do with what we are talking about? unless, Buffet and Gates decide to settle their score by swinging bags of cash in the ring.

as for the first part . . .

WRONG!!! I cannot believe how many people on here DKSAB. Fighters fight under a contract for each each fight. the terms of that contract are negotiated on a fight by fight basis. most of the major changes in the sport have occurred due to contracts written for big fights.