The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd started the whole charade.

    Why ask for tests in the first place?

    It wasn't even on his mind, before his big mouth Daddy spoke up.

    Floyd Snr said something wasn't right, because Manny had started out a low weight and was able to beat WW's.

    Using that same logic, his own son must be guilty too.


    Manny didn't want his camp disrupting until 14 days out, based on nothing but a rumour. That was his prerogative and it wasn't an admission of guilt.


    Seeing as though Manny agreed to the testing in the first place, there was no reason why Floyd couldn't have accepted Manny's cut off date, with a clause written in the contract.
     
  2. Jaguar

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  3. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    manny, agreed to testing. when was this? floyd , agreed to his 10 million dollar per pound weight penalty right!!
     
  4. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    idiot, how is 10m per pound over 147 big deal for a small ww like theftjr?

    you weigh 147 you dont pay a dime.

    unless he planned on cheating pac like he did macne.


    it wont matter what pac would agree to, theftjr will always find something to ***** about.

    like, " no cleto reyes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa".


    if it's not 1 thing it's another.

    onus is on theftjr to prove his worth. he is the oen with a **** legacy.
     
  5. robert80

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    floyd, agreed to his demands *******. manny, ran for the ****ing hills. Thats the fact of this situation here!!
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    So what if he did? I'm yet to hear a good reason why any athlete shouldn't agree to random drug testing - unless you want people to be able to cheat which if you are in favour of you should be open about.
     
  7. robert80

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    manny pac, ran for the ****ing hills after floyd accepted his every demand. why did pac tax dodger do that? why, does this fool owe 68 million dollars too 2 govts, after been warned by visionquest?
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He did not run for the hills.

    Both fighters walked away and fought different guys, because they couldn't reach a compromise.

    Again, you've mentioned the weight penalty.

    The weight penalty was no big deal.

    Floyd is not James Toney.

    He's in shape all year round, only weighing a few pounds over his fighting weight like Hopkins.

    Agreeing to pay a fine if he came in over, IS NOT THE SAME as agreeing to let someone come into your camp and draw blood at any point during a 7 week period.

    How hard is that to understand??
     
  9. Loudon

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    If a guy is asked to undergo testing, by either the commission, or a fighter who'd also asked for his previous opponents to be tested, then I agree that there should be no reason to refuse.

    But we both know that the above didn't happen.

    Now you give me a reason, why Manny should have accepted ALL of Floyd's testing demands, just based on an unsubstantiated rumour by his big mouth father?

    Who the f**k is Floyd to be demanding that Manny has to be randomly tested up until the day of the fight, when nobody else had an issue, and there wasn't a shred of evidence that he was dirty?

    Floyd is lucky that Manny even compromised, and agreed to the testing with the cut off.

    Again, there should have been nothing wrong with accepting Manny's cut off request, as long as there'd have been a clause in the contract, stating that if anything showed up, either in the random in camp tests, or the ones directly after the fight, then Manny wouldn't get paid.

    That's all it would have took.

    I could start a thread asking - 'Should Floyd have accepted Manny's 24 days?'
     
  10. Mr Applebee

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    Voted yes as I believe he should have accepted it but I can't help but think that the goalposts would have been moved again anyway had he accepted it.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree with this.

    IMHO, if Manny had've agreed to every stipulation, Floyd would have just made another one.
     
  12. robert80

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    please explain, who was manny to issue demands which floyd readily accepted!!
     
  13. Loudon

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    It's called one-upmanship.

    Two egos trying to negotiate.

    The weight penalty was BS, and I agree that Manny didn't need to request it, and shouldn't have done.

    But I could understand why he did ask for it.

    But again, it was no big deal for Floyd.

    You simply cannot say 'Floyd agreed to Manny's demands, so why couldn't Manny agree to Floyd's?'

    You can't say that, because there was a HUGE difference between those two demands.

    All Floyd had to do was to nod his head, and just make sure he made the weight, which again, wasn't an issue.

    We all know that it's easy for Floyd to make wright, and that he deliberately came in heavy against Marquez to gain an advantage.

    Again, Floyd agreeing to that, isn't the same as agreeing to have the biggest camp of your career disrupted, to randomly give blood at any point during 7-8 weeks.

    They were not like for like demands.
     
  14. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    quit cryin

    50/50

    10milli for every pound Floyd was over 147

    testing stops 14 days out

    Pac walked away
     
  15. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    These are what's called facts.
    Facts suck for pac Armstrong cult followers
     
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