The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Because Floyd felt Pac was Juicing. Thats why, if he felt that way then he can ask that Pac take testing. Its not a obligation & Pac walked away within his rights.

But see the part I feel is contradicting, is that Pac denied because it was a insult. So then he goes on to agree to take it but only if there is no testing within 24 days of the fight.

this is what it sounds like :

"this is a outrage! Im MANNY PAC MAN PACQUIAO, How dare you ask me for testing when I never tested postive,.......but I guess to make the fight I will do it. But only if you do not test me within 24 days from fight"

Of course any normal person is going to ask "well why not" What does him being insulted have to do with "ok I will take it but only with 24 day cutoff" . The "insult" is just a excuse.

And the it would be drupting him? you really believe that random testing would be to disturbing to pacquiao that his whole trainning camp will be put to waste because of testing?

Aside from Pacquiao who else has blamed a loss or even bad performance from manny? please, Please Answer me this question.


OSDT is the normal in alot of sports. Atheletes who participate dont even get a 14 day window like floyd proposed. Sure it was not the norm in boxing at the time but, but its not something that was out of the question. Nothing suprising at beisdes "o there doing extensive testing?cool".

 

Tried to better protect is what I should've said, and that would be from PEDs' as if you didn't already know.

 

Stop twisting things to suit.

Of course I'm greatly upset about the fight not happening.

But Manny didn't think Floyd was being reasonable, just like Floyd didn't think Manny was being reasonable.

They couldn't compromise, just like we can't.

Now I really want to move on to other threads, so I'll say goodbye.

We'll agree to disagree.

Please don't respond.

Although I don't agree with what you've wrote, I respect you as a poster, and I respect your opinion.


Thanks for the debate, it's been good.

See you on another thread.:good

 

Ok, we'll leave it. :good

 

Wish I could say the same but, it's really not fun debating something that should be readily apparent.

 

I can respect that.

 

stop posting things you don't understand.

 

:good

 

Yes 78.05%
No 21.95%

Sorry *******s, you tried.

 

You're an idiot.

It is irrelevant why Floyd asked for the tests. The fact is he did, and Pacquiao wouldn't take them for some shady ass and/or cowardly reason.

Yes, Floyd senior's logic is obviously flawed, I'll give you that. But if you are clean, then why can't you take the test? It's that simple.

Disrupting his camp? For 10-20 minutes every 2 weeks or so? Is this a joke? There are 24 hours in every day to train and 8 weeks so don't kid me with this disrupting his camp bs. Besides, Floyd would have the same disruption so it's an equal handicap. Yes it is his perogative to do whatever he wants and likewise it is his fault these negotiations fell through due to his choice, or his "prerogative" as you put it.

So there was no reason not to accept Pacquiao's 24 day cutoff? Why should there be a cutoff at all if you're clean? Floyd didn't need a cutoff, why did Manny? Testing should be up to the day of the fight if everything is on the up and up, and Floyd was being very generous in even offering him 14 days. Again, why the cutoff if he was clean?

I know you're slow so I'll spell out the reason for you: it looks suspicious when you ask somebody to take a drug test and they say "only 24 days before the fight." That makes it look like you have something to hide and should have made Floyd demand testing up to the day of the fight (which he later wised up and did). Yes Floyd could have accepted 24 days, but he wanted testing up until the day of the fight so they met halfway at 14 days, which was more than reasonable, and Pacquiao denied that **** for some inexplicable reason.

The first time around the fight didn't happen because of Manny. Roach himself admits that. It's time for everyone to accept that. Now, don't get me wrong, since then Floyd has done plenty to block the fight from happening, so he doesn't get a pass in the overall scheme of things. Bob Arum and Manny also share the blame. All 3 of them killed this fight and it's a damn shame.

 

I'd finished posting on this thread, until I've just read this nonsense.


I'm an idiot?

Oh the irony.

I'd re read what you've typed before throwing out insults.

I don't even know where to begin.


You've just said that Floyd Snr's logic is obviously flawed.

Yet Floyd's testing demands were based on his father's flawed logic.

So taking that into account, why should Manny have agreed to everything?

Think about it.


There's 24 hours to train?

Ha! Really?


Manny's camp would only have been disrupting for ten mins or so, every two weeks?

Ha! How do you know that?


Why should they have been a cut off?

Again, because who would want their camp disrupting for the whole duration, when only Floyd and not the commission had requested it?


Floyd was being generous?

Ha! I've heard it all now.

 

pac refused and still won in court, so really it was how floyd defamed pac and askedbfor tests

 

Can't believe people are still wasting their time creating Mayweather/Pacquiao threads.

Time to move on......years ago.

 

Sooner than 14 days is not enough for time for Manny to get the juice out of his system,so I can see why he didn't want to get tested sooner

 

Lets look at what the *****'s class as OSDT.
OSDT is RBT but done through the whole year. Fraud Willnever does it during his camp thats all, so it is not what you *****'s portray.

Its sad that you supposed fight fans keep bringing up PEDs etc. When in the court case Pacquiaos team were willing to show all test results if Fraud would do the same, but his team declined and paid out FACT. Hence why there is suspicion on Fraud Willnever also.