He was a very good fighter in his prime,fanastic athlete. Totally agree Wladimir gets matched with jabs and has to try cope with a guy who is mobile. Wlad either gets tired and stopped or loses wide on points.
Not really as Spinks was great LHW but was simply far too small to mix it at HW with the bigger punchers. The rest of the list were average fighters at best, though I agree with the point about them being better than than most of Klitschko's opponents however it's like comparing apples with oranges. Klitschko would have been to strong for Tyson and his jab would have peppered him all night long.
That's very convenient. So the one guy who Tyson didn't end up fighting (Spoon's fault, not Tyson's) is the one guy who would have beaten Tyson? Yeah, ok. Funnily enough, that could easily apply to Wlad too, with his own brother. Anyway, opinions are inevitably going to differ, although I've yet to see a convincing argument as to why Wlad would beat Tyson.
Sam Peter was able to push Wlad accross the ring when he tried to tie him up. Sanders could too. Turn off the Klitschko highlight reels and start watching the fights.
The earlier Klitschko yes, but once he tightened up his defences he was very good at holding off the opposition.
Tyson's speed and head movement would be paramount here. he wouldn't let Klitschko get into his jab and grab rhythm because he would start fast as he always did. I see Klitschko possibly suffering a panic attack and folding quickly after Tyson roughs him up on the inside. Klitschko has incredible tools but that still cannot cover up his shaky chin here. Tyson by kayo in three rounds or less.
But least we forget Tyson also had a weak chin, though it took more than one shot for him to be KO. Tyson would beat the earlier Klitschko by way of KO, but not the later version.
When did Tyson display a weak chin? Tyson had an excellent chin from what I saw. Against Danny Williams he suffered a knee injury. Against Douglass, Holyfield, Lewis, he absorbed an accumulation of punishment before being stopped. Tyson was a fighter who was always on the attack and as a result was more susceptible than a guy like Wlad who turtles up and is petrified to commit to anything until his opponent is completely helpless. It is an intelligent way to fight and promotes career longevity. It just is boring as hell to watch. That is why Tyson is revered and Klitschko cannot even get on HBO.
Guys, I give Wlad all the credit in the world for reinventing himself. He has a weak chin. There is no question about it .. even in the Klitschko doc a previous trainer who knew both brothers well discussed this as part of comparing Vitali to steel and Wlad to clay. Wlad has managed to do a hell of a lot, its to his credit and in his reinvented form he would be a difficult match up for many based on his size, strength, skills and intelligence. However a prime, focused Tyson proved that he could land hard and often against huge men such as Green, Tucker, Smith, Briggs and Ruddock .. they survived but all were badly rocked and hung on for their lives .. Tyson would land and then it would end .. either by stoppage or highly unlikely Wlad hangs on to lose a decision ..
I admit to not being a fan of wlad but it can't be that , that leads to the conclusion that see's wlad being stopped or KO'd by the 5th . As good as his defence is and now it is a world class defence .it may well be one of wlad's best offensive weapons ( his jab) that will be his downfall here . I just can't see wlad connecting with enough jabs to keep Tyson off balance and at distance . Tyson had fantastic head movement and he would get inside wlad's jab and land some excellent body shots . Tyson has avoided quicker jabs than wlad's , Tyson's head/upper-body movement is really that important here it will cause panic to set in , in wlad's mind even against his low level opposition for brief moments when confronted with aggressive opponents that come forward . These situations have clearly caused wlad to become unsure of himself and he clearly panics
Tyson by early ko or by UD, wlad had the tools to hug his way to the 12th round, but if/when he opens up, he will get blasted out Tyson is the mentally stronger fighter in this fight. Wlad doesnt have Holyfields heart or chin or Douglas skillset Wlad likes having things his own way, that ain't happening here, Tyson will be coming to takr his head clean off, and hell be fighting dirty, throwing elbows, punching after the bell etc . Wlad will have on of his panic attacks
Couldn't agree more. Since when is Wlad a slickster like Tokyo Douglass haha. Wlad has fast feet and can move in and out but would not be bouncing on his toes and using lateral movement like Douglass did. Wlad's jab is powerful and impressive, but slow. He doesn't have the speed or snap of Holmes, Ali, or Douglass. Wlad folds mentally under pressure, and he knows he has a weak chin that he must protect. Wlad waited 12 rounds to go for the kill against Eddie Chambers, a former cruiserweight. You have to inflict a prolonged beating on Tyson to beat him. As many flush right hands as Wlad could land hes not stopping Tyson. Look at what Brewster absorbed, Tyson is tougher than that, top 2 or 3 chins alltime. The left hook is key, Tyson had a ferocious leaping left hook that would drop Wlad. 80s Mike used a great jab to get inside, and routinely outjabbed jabbers, even Lewis in round 1! Wlad hangs the left hand low just asking to be countered or hit with a lead shot. Wlad will also have to deal with some of the greates defense the division has ever seen. Tyson isn't going to be walking in a straight line with his chin up. All that speed, bobbing, and weaving will have Wlad tentative and shitting in his shorts. Even more than that Wlad will be defeated at the stare down. Tyson's reputation, track record, and baleful stare will certainly instill doubt if not fear in Klitschko. To beat Mike you needed to throw everything and the kitchen sink, and pray for a miracle to get the win. Wlad would KO many a great HW, Tyson is possibly the worst stylistic matchup for Wlad outside of a 70s Foreman. Tyson KO 2 might be extreme against someone of Wlad's caliber. Tyson KO within 4.
I can't see past Tyson smashing Wlad. His power is too extreme for Wlad to handle. Wlad too often falls into a coasting pattern behind that jab and eventually Tyson will slip in and end it. Put it this way, the shot he caught Holy with in the first and Douglas in the 9th, those shots finish Wlad off.