Broner traveling through Weight Classes For Better Challenges, GGG take notes.

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  1. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Broner went from nearly cleaning out 135, skipped 2 weight classes and fought a top 10 WW in Paulie and a top 5 WW in Chino. Now he's at 140 and fighting the #2 guy in the division.





    There's nothing that Broner can teach GGG about boxing, as GGG is a better fighter pretty much across the board (from what it seems),

    but dammit he could learn something about seeking out challenges, being hungry, and realizing that big fights don't always come to you. You have to leave your comfort zone to get the challenges you want.

    You might need to give up some weight, and you might lose that power advantage you enjoyed at the lower classes (Broner at 135, Pac at 130,135, Floyd at 130,135) but you'll become a better fighter because of it. Because when you don't have your bread and butter going for you, you have to evolve and dig deep.

    Floyd lost his power from 135 when he moved up, but learned to focus on accuracy, more than quantity. He learned how to back bigger guys up. How to control pace better.

    Pac has learned to become more of boxer-puncher than a swarmer and to utilize his footwork because he's normally the smaller man on fight night. His boxing skills have improved tremendously since his 130 days.

    And knowing your limits helps you exceed them.

    GGG might never know how good a fighter he could be, because he doesn't have to adjust. He doesnt have to give up his power advantage, he doesn't have to give up his size advantage. (he has come in the ring at 170+ before, he's not that small)

    Broner's a dickhead at times. But he is hungry. He does want to make a name for himself. It's one thing to say that you'll fight anyone, and its another to make sacrifices to give it up.

    GGG should take notes. GGG has Broner edged out in every department inside the ring, and edges him out on class outside the ring too. But he doesnt have the hunger to know his limits and travel into the unknown and out of his comfort zone. It's just not there.
     
  2. Kevin Jesus

    Kevin Jesus Active Member Full Member

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    Golovkin is like 33 complaining about not being able to get fights. Just move up.

    Meanwhile, active guys who were in their 20s like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Broner, P. Williams, R. Guerrero and other fighters who were older like Cotto, Marquez, all moved up 15-25lbs throughout their career just to get the big names to fight them.

    Golovkin fans don't want him to do such a thing like moving up 8lbs, they're scared what Ward or Froch might do to him up there.
     
  3. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think GGG is enjoying his aura of invincibility. I think he's scared to truly challenge himself. I mean even Canelo wants to challenge himself. You got guys like Oscar and Roach saying "they don't know why he took the fight"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tReHuwc5-Y

    but when you want to be great, that's what you do. You leave your comfort zone and you learn your limits. Canelo knows Lara will be difficult. He's on record saying it's going to be tough. And still moving forward with the fight shows a champion.
     
  4. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even though Golovkin hasn't got a chance to prove himself he is far more proven than adrien the BUM Broner
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    All depends on promotion and management. Broner is with Haymon/GBP, which means his options are as wide as can be. They even had solid options for him at 140 had he decided to campaign there.
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Broner is more proven because he fought serious opposition. As much as I like GGG, his biggest win remains to be Curtis Stevens.
     
  7. Saccowalace

    Saccowalace GOAT Full Member

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    Broner was fighting well below his natural weight, GGG is not

    Big difference
     
  8. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GGG was 174 against Adama.

    Broner was 146 against PDL.

    146-135= 11

    174-160= 14
     
  9. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Gotta love how factors like management, promotion, and network support are completely ignored.

    GGG has to take less money than his ratings would dictate so his opponents can get signed. He and K2 can only work with the fight budget HBO gives them (although he's becoming a live gate attraction, which will help).

    Broner had way more support from day 1.
     
  10. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Golovkin was a light welterweight in the amateurs when he was Broner's age.
     
  11. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Broner serious opposition? Outside of Maidana?

    Broner was moving up because he was still growing, I hear he walks around at SMW or higher. I'll give him credit for signing on to fight Matty though if that actually pans out. Hope for his sake he has managed his weight better between bouts, if he has 8 weeks of Fat Camp instead of Training Camp he is in for a severe beating.
     
  12. Saccowalace

    Saccowalace GOAT Full Member

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    Thats just cause broner is short, boy has serious meat on his bones to be fighting at lightweight
     
  13. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    And clueless fools will continue to ignore it.
     
  14. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When it's GGG, promotions, networks, and management are okay scapegoats.

    Everyone else, it's considered a duck.

    Keep making excuses for GGG not having a live body on his resume.
    Fact is this.

    Froch is willing. Kessler is willing.

    We're not talking about Day 1. We're talking about an 8 year pro in 2014, who doesnt want to challenge himself.

    Truth is. He's a draw. People want to see him fight. Especially here in New York. People love him here.

    He just doesnt want to fight the best.
     
  15. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    good. but that was 10 years ago.