Foreman vs Wladimir Klitschko

Are you actually questioning Wlads power?

Wlad is one of the hardest punchers in history with both hands

 

Wlad's mobility is not overrated, especially compared to Foreman's slow gait that promted Ali to call him "the mummy". Wlad is one of the fastest super heavyweights ever. He was able to outmanoeuvre the very fast David Haye.

Povetkin allowed himself to be clinched so he wouldn't be knocked out. Wlad knocked him down 4 times and won every round. You can't compare Povetkin to Foreman, Povetkin is faster and has much better hand speed.

Wlad wouldn't have to take the beating Ali did because he has the power to keep Foreman off of him, Ali didn't have the power to keep Foreman from walking him down, Wlad does. Foreman's jab in the 70's was inconsistent and inferior to Wlad's jab so he could only really rely on winging big telegraphed hooks that Wlad would avoid and counter.

These roughhouse tactics of Foreman's you speak of wouldn't work because Wlad is bigger and stronger than him and he knows some roughhouse tactics himself.

Foreman was also quite easy to hit. He had a good chin but he won't last the distance taking all those stiff jabs and straight rights from Klitschko. Foreman will be clumsily looking for that big hail mary punch all night but won't find it.

I love Foreman but Klitschko is his Kryptonite.

 

Foreman by KO/TKO gaining nearly 70% of the vote.

 

Maybe it's just me, but watching a young, strong Foreman labour against a workmanlike Jimmy Young does make me wonder here.
We can get pedantic and say it wasn't peak Foreman, but he was still very much a force. Young picked him apart and besides one wobbly moment about halfway through, controlled George throughout.
Foreman was pretty clueless to be honest. He could not get set to throw anything meaningful all evening, his punches were poorly-timed and looping and against an opponent like Wlad who is better than Young, he'd have to be much more effectively aggressive.
Being merely aggressive isn't enough.

 

Yeah , Wlad has decent footwork. He covers more ground with each step because of his size but he's not nimble, have fast feet or has any bounce in his step.
Who has Wlad ever evaded without contact for 7 rounds? He couldn't evade Peter both fights and he moved around the ring in baby steps.

How does he evade one of the best ring cutters at HW for 7 rounds?

I think Foreman has a harder time with Wlad than the rest of the ATGs. Guys like Tyson and Holmes steamroll Wlad imo but Foreman may have to work a bit harder but would eventually get the job done in round 2 or 3.

 

Only because he jumped all over his back. He hadn't the range of motion or skills to evade Haye He had to resort to excessive fouling.

How many times did Foreman jump Frazier's back? NEVER.

Frazier>> Night>>Day>>Haye.

 

Thats the thing, they wont. Foreman will pretty much make a statement in the first fight and Wladmir wont want anything to do with him again.

If Wlad makes it into the second half of the fight, then he has a chance to take Foreman out late or win a decision.

But in order to do that, he has to survive the nuclear missiles that will be flying towards him and i personally dont believe he can do that. Wlad has never shown that he can turn a fight around that he was losing, or get off the floor to win a fight and i also dont feel Wlad can handle that kind of pressure the way a Holyfield could or Lennox Lewis.

I dont believe he has the mental strength to do what Ali did in Zaire and Foreman (at his peak) was great at cutting of the ring. Another often overlooked fact is, Foreman had very little respect for Frazier, Norton or Alis punchpower, hence why he had Ali up against the ropes, Ali had nowhere else to run. Foreman did walk through Fraziers left hook like it was nothing and i feel the same would happen to Wlad.

Im not too sure about the measurements, but i dont think Wlad is that much larger tahn Foreman (i could be wrong).

Apart from stamina, Wlads got nothing to offer Foreman and that hugging/clinching stuff might be suicidal against Foreman. Even Ali admitted to being nearly out on his feet when Foreman had him against the ropes.

Foreman will bully Wlad back, walk through his jab, put him under pressure until he (his chin) cracks and then Wlad aint getting up.

 

go to the bed boy

 

He got off the floor 3 times to beat Peter

 

vitali klitscko in 2003-2004 is a much close fight for foreman, wladimir does not have the chin, foreman rapes him against the ropes, simple like that

 

Wlad has enough punching power in both fists to knock foreman out cold. Lyle had Foreman on shaky legs all night. Foreman's chin wasn't unbreakable.

Wlad also has a great enough left jab to land consistently on Foreman, and dictate the pace of the fight.

Wlad also has the physical strength to tie foreman up, and not get muscled around in the clinch

Wlad also has the Ring IQ, footwork, and boxing skills to make Foreman fight his fight. The fight will mostly take place on the outside and Wlad will score repeatedly with straight right hands, jabs, and the occasional left hook before getting out of range. Foreman absolutely cannot take too many flush shots from Wlad. Wlad is 6'6 250lb and emanuel steward said he is the hardest one punch hitter he has ever seen. Foreman will become worn down, and Wlad will take him out in the latter rounds. I see a few rocky moments in there, but Wlad will weather the storm, control the pace of the fight, and land the harder, effective punches.

Wlad TKO 11 Foreman

 

I basically agree. If we're talking about the Wlad from the purity fight to the Sanders bout, then I'll go with Foreman.. But anytime from about 2005 onward, Klit is a huge favorite in my book.

 

This is a non truth.

Peter threw Wlad across the ring when in the clinch. Sanders brushed him off with ease.

Even Wlad knows he has to hoist himself up on his toes to to cover these guys backs to make sure they don't out work him in the clinch.
Wlad doesn't just tie up. He employs disgraceful neck locks and back hump techniques.
The clinch master can't even clinch legally.
He has no confidence in the clinch and is blatantly unsure of himself.

Foreman blows through Wlads pathetic excuse for boxing and knocks him for 6 in brutal fashion.

What you meant to say is Wlad jumps all over his back. In that case he gets a DQ or is forced to stop.

Wlad fanbois post about this mythical Wlad that simply doesn't exist.

The nut hugger Wlad and the Wlad can be seen on film are two totally different fighters completely.

 

Who from 2005 onward did he beat that made you go with Foreman?