Ali, Frazier and Foreman: What do they do against Lennox Lewis?

Ali does the best, then Foreman, then Frazier.

I'd pick Ali and Foreman to beat Lewis but it wouldn't be easy for either man. I'm not sure Frazier could have beat Lewis.

Lewis would have a tremendous height, reach, and weight advantage over Frazier. Lewis had a good jab that was very hard. Lewis had great power in either hand but his overhand right was awesome.

Frazier was stopped by Foreman twice and Ali (both eyes were damaged). Lewis was KTFO twice by non-greats. Lewis did avenge his losses (McCall TKO5 (he wasn't hurt, he just quit) and Rahman KO4), Frazier didn't come close to avenging his loss to Foreman but he had a win over Ali and did very well in their 3rd fight until he was stopped after the 14th round.

Despite the 2 KO losses on Lewis' resume, he was never down in any other fight. He was rocked a few times by Bruno, Holyfield, Briggs, and Klitschko. Some say Akinwande dropped him but it's not like he was really hurt. Pretty sturdy for the most part.

Frazier was down twice vs. Bonavena in their first fight. He beat Bonavena again but did not go down in the rematch. Foreman was the only other fighter to put him down I believe (7 times in two fights).

 

I'd pick Ali to win a close decision and I think Lewis would beat Frazier without too much trouble. Not sure about Foreman, if I had to bet, I think Lewis would win providing he lasts the first 3-4 rounds and turns it into a boxing match. He's got enough power to hurt George and he could out box him if that was the safest strategy.

 

Prime vs prime, Ali pretty much beats all but johnson who he likely fights to a draw. In fighting ali, lennox would be fighting a guy who is basically his height (Lewis is 6'5 but leans in and bends forward especially when he is trying to throw punches which is why in the holyfield 2 fight they look almost the same height), with faster hands. Sure Lennox has more power, but ali never had an issue beating a guy with lots of power. Lennox has never fought a good mover like that. Ali hits and move to the stomach until lewis gets tired and then he starts unleashing in 5-8 and lewis quits on the stool or gets beat to a pulp and the fight is stopped. Lewis would probably edge out a young foreman. Lewis vs old foreman is anyone game but I give the edge to lewis, either man could knock out the other. None have iron clad chins, but both can take a good punch. Foreman's saving grace is his wide hooks catch lewis big uppercuts and he has better endurance so ight pull of the win. Frazier is anyone's game. Frazier like all small hevays peaked early and went down hill quick. Frazier vs foreman was much like tyson vs douglas. frazier is the toughest one. Sometimes frazier can beat big guys sometimes he struggle. I don't see Lewis beating him in his prime when he was regularly beating opponents like buster mathis but its just too hard to call.

 

Ali would have the best chance to beat Lewis. He would use his speedy jab and quick combinations to out point Lewis who fights defensively behind his jab looking for that opening for his right that he can't deliver on.

Lewis would fight somewhat tentatively against Foreman but when he starts really landing hard hammer jabs and rights to Foreman's head and realizes how wide open his defence is, I see Lewis taking him out with well timed shots like in Rahman 2.

Frazier gets absolutely annihilated.

 

Funny because one armed Tua who was much slower paced than Frazier had Lewis fighting cautious for 12 whole rounds. Lewis was so wary of left hooks. He did not try to knock Tua out because he was so worried about getting caught from a slower hook than Fraziers.

People need to get over what Foreman did to Frazier. The prime Joe Frazier was 1969-1971 not post 1973.

 

Bringing up Tua vs Lewis is not a good choice of argument to better Frazier chances against Lewis. For starters Tua's chin was indestructible. The shots Lennox hit Tua with I don't see Frazier taking for very long. Secondly Tua unlike Frazier was a two handed puncher .I believe he hit harder than Frazier as well. Most of all why bring up that fight when Lennox completely dominated Tua.

I just don't see Frazier giving Lewis any real problems or mounting an effective attack that would make him think twice. Frazier of course is game but would be totally outgunned and outmatched by the much bigger, talented and skilled Lewis.

 

Frazier was knocked down for an 8 count by Mike Bruce.Bruce had 41 fights with only 6 stoppage wins for a 14.63 ko% .No way he survives Lewis's right hand.

 

Tua was not one armed are you thinking of Frazier.Tua fought just to survive against Lewis, Frazier would be trying to win for the brief time he was upright.

 

What hard punches did Lewis hit Tua with? My memory of the fight was of an extremely tentative Lewis keeping the Tuaman at arms length, tapping him off balance to see the rounds out.

 

My memory is of Tua just going through the motions looking to see the distance out. Lewis landed 3 good rights in the first round plus a cuple of body shots.
He caught Tua with a couple of rights in the 2nd . Tua began to run out of ambition after the next couple of rounds.

It makes me laugh Lewis puts on a masterclass of utilising his skills and physical advantages to easily decision Tua and he's described as extremely tentative .If that had been Wlad in there his ball lickers would be lauding him to the skies.

It was a systematic dismantling
How many rounds did Tua win?

Lewis landed 3 good rights at the start of the 6th and Tua lands his left hook flush Lewis momentarily clinches and returns fire.
Oh and Lewis was 35 in that fight, how good was Frazier at 35?atsch

 

I corrected a remark made by another poster.I dont really want to engage with you ,I've read your posts.

 

TBH your post above is fine.I think I'm confusing you with another.ps I give Tua a decent shout against Frazier