Freddie Roach Suspects Pac was Unknowingly on PEDs

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  1. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your obsession with PAC leaves you open to be humiliated.

    Mayweather shut out jmm...jmm schooled PAC in fight 3 and then proceeded to knock him unconscious in the 4th, just using your own argument.
     
  2. Winger

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    It's a bit strange how all of these guys who dismissed Roach as an attention-starved rambling loony every time he said anything about Floyd suddenly take his word as gospel (and even add things he didn't actually say to it) when he's talking **** about a former employee in Ariza, who physically attacked him, nearly ruined his training camps, and whom he surely dislikes 100x more than he dislikes Floyd.
     
  3. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    idiot. you forgetting macne went up 2 weightclasses and was cheated.

    this is like pac vs rigo at 135 and pac doesnt bother goind down in weight.

    hell some *****s cry algeri will go up 4 lbs but pac will go down 2-3 lbs.



    when has thefjr ever go up 2 weight classes in his career ever? too easy right?

    no. only atg's do that.:good
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I didn't learn anything new with this article.

    But 90% of you folks should be infuriated and be left scratching your head after years of taking an incorrect stance.
     
  5. -GhettoWizard-

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    :deal :deal :deal
     
  6. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    why the fuc would roach admit pac did ped's if anything he would cover it up this makes no sense.and as far as not taking tests vs gayweather jr pacquiao agreed to all testing gaywather jr then put up more obstacles/excuses such as leave his promoter join his offer a terrible rip off of a purse must use different boxing gloves all to avoid having to fight pacquiao I have caught on to gayweather jr tactics Pacquiao can agree to all demands gayweather will just make more demands so the fight never gets made gayweather jr fears Pacquiao knows Pacquiao will destroy gayweather jr.This article is bs anybody can write this I want to see a video of roach saying this.even If pac was on ped's which he is not holyfield roy jones erik morales and mosley are known ped users no one cares they are still seen as legends so would Pacquiao and gayweather jr would still be seen as a coward ducker that will never change.
     
  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    It looks like Ariza is about to be exposed, and Roach is trying to minimize the blow before it all blows up.
     
  8. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I stopped reading there. The drug testing issue was in 2009. Mayweather didn't mention his promoter until 2014. You're telling me it took Pacquiao 5 years to agree to testing?
     
  9. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Blind trash talking Pacquiao fanboys left speechless with this one.
     
  11. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    What was the reason given by Garcia as to why Ariza is no longer welcomed there? Maybe Garcia knows something??!! Maybe many others know something and Garcia said to hell with Ariza and his bad rep???
     
  12. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can talk till your head swell up and bust but we ain't talking about Floyd, we talking about Pac and I always felt that he was being drugged without his knowledge. Pac was very trusting and believed he was getting the best from the people handling him but Bob Arum is a snake and he and his co-harts used Pac like a circus act. There is no shame on Pac's part but does go to show what kind of people he is dealing with.
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Athletes know exactly what is going into their bodies.

    Almost every top pro athlete needs to be and are obsessed with their body.
     
  14. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    absolutely, what's the point in debating with them?
     
  15. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think the focus is on what Roach is saying about Ariza (everybody knows they can't stand each other). It's because what he's saying about Ariza places a negative light on Pacquiao. Why jeopardize things with his current fighter, prior to being retired, if he didn't believe them to be true?