Best P4P Top 5 by nation... Are Cuba, Jap, Mex, Phi, UK, US the top 6?

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    P4P is up to the beholder as much as anything, so edit mine with who you think should be there.

    Are these the power house nations of boxing at the moment? If not, name one with a better top echelon... Who has the best?

    Cuba
    1. Guillermo Rigondeaux, 13-0
    2. Erislandy Lara, 19-2-2
    3. Yoan Pablo Hernandez, 28-1
    4. Rances Barthelemy, 20-0
    5. Mike Perez, 20-0-1

    Japan
    1. Takashi Uchiyama, 21-0-1
    2. Shinsuke Yamanaka, 21-0-2
    3. Akira Yaegashi, 20-3
    4. Kazuto Ioka, 14-1
    5. Naoya Inoue, 6-0

    Mexico
    1. Juan Manuel Marquez, 56-7-1
    2. Saul Alvarez, 44-1-1
    3. Jhonny Gonzalez, 56-8
    4. Leo Santa Cruz, 27-0-1
    5. Juan Francisco Estrada, 26-2

    Philippines
    1. Manny Pacquiao, 56-5-2
    2. Nonito Donaire, 33-2
    3. Donnie Nietes, 33-1-4
    4. John Riel Casimero, 20-2
    5. Marvin Sonsona, 19-1

    United Kingdom
    1. Carl Froch, 33-2
    2. Carl Frampton, 18-0
    3. Amir Khan, 29-3
    4. Kell Brook, 32-0
    5. Martin Murray, 28-1-1

    United States
    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr, 46-0
    2. Andre Ward, 27-0
    3. Tim Bradley, 31-1
    4. Bernard Hopkins, 55-6-2
    5. Danny Garcia, 28-0


    My biggest observation here is that the UK, Philippines, and Cuba are nowhere near the quality of depth if this were a "P4P Top 15 list" compared to Mexico, Japan, and the US, which have plenty of top guys off the top of ones' head.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Jul 18, 2014
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  2. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hmmmm...
    if i had to rank them it would be
    1.USA
    2.UK
    3. Mexico/Phillipines.....maybe Mexico the slight edge:think
    4. Cuba
    5. Japs <----this isnt a derogatory term is it? if so my apologies
     
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  3. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Good list man and I do see USA securing it's #1 standing with Crawford as it's rising star and I could see Mikey Garcia also joining the p4p list in the near future. These 2 are scary good.
    1. USA
    2. Mexico
    3. Philippines
    4.Cuba
    5. Japan
    Ukraine might join the list in the future.
     
    elchivito, Jul 18, 2014
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  4. CupidStunt

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    Haiti should be in there...tiny country and got Stevenson, Stiverne and Pascal. Or should that be Canada :think

    P.R has slipped hard recently but still gotta be up there
     
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  5. -GhettoWizard-

    -GhettoWizard- Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What about Russia? Where would guys like Golovkin, Kovalev, etc. rate? :think
     
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  6. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Golovokin is from Kazakhstan though.

    Provodnikov, Pirog ( has he retired?) And Kovalev. Proabaly missing some top rated fighters. For Russia.
     
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  7. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    ukraine?
     
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  8. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1.USA
    2. Mexico
    3. Philippines
    4. Cuba
    5. Japan/UK
     
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  9. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Ukraine will be high up their in P4P country list in a few years, as a lot of their top amateurs have turned pro a few of which will likely go onto win world titles.

    Lomachenko being one of those top amateurs to recently turn Pro.
     
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  10. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. USA

    2. Cuba

    3. Mexico

    4. Puerto Rico

    5. Japan

    In that order.
     
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  11. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wait until we get more Cuban pros
     
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  12. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Japan currently have more world champs than Puerto Rico, shouldn't they be higher?
     
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  13. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Puerto Rico isn't even an independent country. Its a part of the Us
     
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  14. Joejr

    Joejr Boxing Addict banned

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    Is this just purely pro boxing?
     
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  15. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess but they represent themselves in the Olympics etc. Why not professional boxing?
     
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