manny pacquiao accomplishments are unparalleled

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  1. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    It does seem like a bit odd.

    But maybe just maybe it's all just a big coinkydink
     
  2. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Meh sweetscience.com 8newscount.com "world's greatest ever featherweight" ... looks like a blog comment with spam. The bar for accomplishments is really low on ******* island.

    Why not add?

    progayer.com fighter of the year
    boxing_sister.com fighter of millenium
    bakla.com Coming out fighter of the decade
     
  3. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    so ariza actually didn't help pacquiao.
     
  4. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    but you said after clottey he looked **** but mosley was after clottey pac made shane back up the whole time and knocked him down shane didn't want to trade!
     
  5. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No doubt he did. I'm under the belief that he got off of what ever roids he was on, and then started training naturally under Ariza. And Ariza is a brilliant S/C coach. I think the Pac we see today, is the Pac we'd have always seen if he was clean. Still a great athlete with good power. But not putting the fear into bigger man. Bradley takes his punches no problem. Rios took his punches no problem. Bradley was knocked down 3 times by Provo. Pac didn't knock him down ONCE. Are you kidding me?
     
  6. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    so now you think pacquiao trained naturally under ariza....those ariza shakes were now natural.
     
  7. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After the heat started coming on? Yeah I believe so. I just don't think that the ones before he started trainiing naturally were natural. Pac was on roids, and it'll come out eventually. Too much ego, hatred, and disdain in his camp, and former members of his camp for it not to happen. Now it's just a matter of WHEN, not IF.
     
  8. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    Winning a title at 145 and 150 shouldnt even be an achievement as those opponents were weight drained
     
  9. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's a different time period. At least 4 titles to choose from rather than 2 (which usually was held by one fighter). More weight divisions.

    Cotto wins world titles in 4 divisions, the first Puerto Rican to do so, but look at the whole picture and take everything into context, you'll see that Wilfred Benitez's 3 divisional titles are considerably more impressive.

    Same thing with Erik Morales being the first Mexican to win world titles in 4 divisions. What Julio Cesar Chavez did in winning world titles in 3 divisions was more impressive.

    Likewise, Manny Pacquiao is the most "decorated" world champ ever with world titles in 8 divisions, but other fighters who won less world titles were greater.

    But don't get me wrong, Pacquiao is a great fighter. An ATG who greatly exceeded my expectations, as well as the expectations of many other fans.

    I didn't think he'd beat Barrera in 2003. If you would have said then that he within a few years, he'd completely oblierate the true 140 lb. champ, and dominate top welterweights, many people would say you were crazy.
     
  10. pjomega

    pjomega Member Full Member

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    Unfortunately, their will always be doubt surrounding Manny. I'm a Manny fan , but he brought this upon himself, claiming he doesn't like needles, that it will make him weak. If that was any other fighter , they would have been absolutely bashed, but because it was Manny, people blindly supported him.
     
  11. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal
     
  12. -GhettoWizard-

    -GhettoWizard- Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Crazy stats. Definitely an ATG
     
  13. DKD

    DKD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So.

    Is Manny Pacquiao the greatest boxer since Duran?

    Or what?
     
  14. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    pac never said he didn't like needles.

    pac's claim of losing blood making him weak was way back in 2007 for a 2005. that was way before any osdt talk or a floyd fight being even considered.
     
  15. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Little girls taking olympic tests goes back before Manny was born.

    Oh the excuses.