I Dont Think Pacquiao-Bradley 1 Was a Robbery

Seemed retty clear that one of the judges scoring it for Bratty wasn't on the level. Namely the well documented CJ Ross, who lucky for us lost all of the litle credibility she had left with the 114-114 draw in the Floyd vs Canelo fight.
I really hate it when so called boxingfans say it wasn't a robbery because it definitely was. You have to score at least one clear Pac round the other way and every single close one to Bradley to come up with that score. So you either have to be incapable of scoring a fight or unfair, wich means a robbery.

 

48-3 of the press row and 9/10 in the hbo poll scored it for pacquiao.

looks like you can't keep your objectivity or bias out when it comes to scoring pac's fight.

 

A lot of rounds weren't close at all. At one point it looked like Bradley was getting stopped getting rocked a couple of times and then Pac took his foot of the gas and let him come back in the fight.
There's no way you can say they were on the same footing that bout, and only the flawed 10 points must system (in wich a clear round scores the same as a close round) made it close.

 

:think

I forgot about that.

It was a good action packed fight and I completely forgot how he made them wait like 12 minutes before he came out.atsch

I wonder now if that didnt play some role.:think

 

Only 12% at press row had Pacquiao winning in fight 3 with Marquez, yet you dismiss that in a heartbeat.:nut

 

atsch what a pathetic attempt to troll. Why are you even on this forum?

I can pull up various stats but look at this you idiot

Bradley vs Pacquiao 1 unofficial scorecards:
Ron Borges, Boston Herald: 117-111 Pacquiao
********************: 116-112 Pacquiao
Brent Brookhouse, SBNation.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Steve Bunce, BoxNation.com/BBC: 116-112 Pacquiao
Ryan Burton, ***********.com: 117-112 Pacquiao
Mario Cabrera, The Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao
Jordan Capobianco, BoxingNews24.com:116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
CheckHook.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Marc Livitz, SecondsOut.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Geoffrey Ciani, EastSideBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Leroy Cleveland, FightSaga.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
Nigel Collins, ESPN: 118-110 Pacquiao
Victor Contreras, The Sacramento Bee: 118-110 Pacquiao
Paddy Cronan, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 118-110 Pacquiao
Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
Gareth Davies, The Daily Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao
Rob Day, ***************: 117-112 Pacquiao
George Diaz, The Orlando Sentinel: 117-111 Pacquiao
Jake Donovan, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Terry Dooley, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Charles Farrell, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
FightersRated.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Doug Fischer, The Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao
Danny Flexen, Boxing News: 115-113 Bradley
Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Danny Garcia: 118-110 Pacquiao
David Greisman, ***********.com: 7-111 Pacquiao
Tommy Gunn, *****************: 117-111 Pacquiao
Andreas Hale, FightNews.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Ricky Hatton: 116-112 Pacquiao
Thomas Hauser, HBO/TheSweetScience.com:115-114
Benny Henderson, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Joseph Herron, FightSaga.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Skip Bayless, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao
Phil Jay, *****.net: 118-110 Pacquiao
Max Kellerman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
Brian Kenny, Top Rank: 116-112 Bradley
Amir Khan, Primetime: 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Mike Koppinger, The Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao
Ron Lewis, Primetime/BBC: 117-111 Pacquiao
Steve Lillis, BoxNation: 118-111 Pacquiao
Robert Little, BlackSportsOnline.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Juan Manuel Marquez: 116-112 Pacquiao
Ray Markarian, TheSweetScience.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
Michael Marley, BoxingConfidential.com/Examiner.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
David Mayo, The Grand Rapids Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
Jeff Mayweather: 118-110 Pacquiao
Kelsey McCarson, TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
John McCormick, BoxingTalk.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Wayne McCullough: 116-112 Pacquiao
Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 116-112 Pacquiao
Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian: 118-112 Pacquiao
Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Michael Nelson, TheCruelestSport.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Brett Newton, Pound4Pound.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Pete O'Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao
Brett Okamoto, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
Graham Parker, The Guardian: 117-111 Pacquiao
Max Parker, BoxingWatchers.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
John Perretti, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
Ryan Phillips, BleacherReport.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Eugeny Pilipenko, Vringe.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao
Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
Eric Raskin, HBO/TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
John Raspanti, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Chris Robinson, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Cliff Rold, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Michael Rosenthal, The Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
Champ Ross, DaTruthBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
John Russell, former trainer of Buster Douglas: 118-110 Pacquiao
Jonathan Sakti, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
Luis Sandoval, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 119-111 Pacquiao
Lem Satterfield, The Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
Scott Sawitz, Fox Sports/Inside Fights: 119-109 Pacquiao
Joel Sebastionelli, LIITR Box Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
Colin Seymour, Examiner.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Cameron Sharpe, Boxing Fancast: 115-115 Draw
Ronnie Shields: 117-111 Pacquiao
George Willis, The New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao
Michael Woods, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
Nick Xouris, FightHype.com: 118-111 Pacquiao
Among the experts above, 121 scored the bout for Pacquiao, 3 scored it for Bradley and 1 had it a draw.

Marquez vs Pac 3:
Dan Ambrose, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Marquez
Glen Anglin, BoxingNews24.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Frank Baltazar, Fight Manager/California Boxing Hall of Fame inductee: 115-115 Draw
Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 116-113 Pacquiao
Skip Bayless, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
Johnny Benz, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-111 Marquez
Joe Bruiser, FightFan.com: 116-116 Draw
Steve Bunce, BBC: 117-111 Marquez
Steve Busfield, The Guardian: 116-114 Pacquiao
Brian Campbell, ESPN Mobile: 114-114 Draw
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 114-114 Draw
Will Carroll, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
Mike Chiari, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Marquez
Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com/Examiner.com: Pacquiao by one round
Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 114-114 Draw
Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 114-114 Draw
Beau Denison, SportsPageMagazine.com: 114-114 Draw
Jake Donovan, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Fox Doucette, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
Blake Dreisbach, BleacherReport.com: 116-112 Marquez
Bill Dwyer, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Marquez
Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 114-114 Draw
Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Andrew Eisele, Boxing.about.com: 115-115 Draw
George Elsasser, BraggingRightsCorner.com: 114-114 Draw
Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 114-114 Draw
Sean Faye, Eurosport Yahoo!: 116-115 Pacquiao
James Foley, BleacherReport.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Nick Fors, Pasionsports.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Nick Fox, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Pacquiao
Norm Frauenheim, 15Rounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Andrew Fruman, The Boxing Bulletin: 116-112 Marquez
Ronald Geronimo, NowBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Chuck Giampa: 116-112 Marquez
Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 115-113 Marquez
Robert Guerrero: 116-112 Marquez
Igor Guryashkin, ESPN: Marquez by one round
Adam Hirshfield, Bleacher Report.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Charles Horgan, Boxing Tribune: 114-114 Draw
Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 115-113 Pacquiao
Joel Huerto, SportsFanLive: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jerry Izenberg, Newark Star-Ledger: 115-114 Marquez
Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 114-114 Draw
Roy Jones Jr.: Draw
Teddy June, RingJunkies.com: 114-114 Draw
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 115-113 Marquez
David Kassel, FightHype.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
John Katsilometes, Las Vegas Sun: 115-114 Marquez
Max Kellerman, HBO: 114-114 Draw
Chris Koegler, TheRealHook.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Darrell La Montre, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Glyn Leach, Boxing Monthly: 115-113 Marquez
Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
Greg Leon, BoxingTalk.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Mark Lichtenfeld, Ring Announcer/Member, The Ring Magazine Ratings Panel: 114-114 Draw
Doveed Linder, BoxingTalk.com: 114-114 Draw
Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 114-114 Draw
Nate Ravitz, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 114-114 Draw
Martin Rogers, Yahoo! Sports: 115-113 Marquez
Cliff Rold, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Michael Rosenthal, Editor, The Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
Rob Rutz, MyBoxingFans.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Lem Satterfield, The Ring Magazine: 117-111 Marquez
"Old Yank" Schneider, Boxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Elie Seckbach, EsNews.com/AOL News: 114-114 Draw
Briggs Seekins, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Marquez
Danny Serratelli, EastSideBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Colin Seymour, FrontPageBoxing.com/Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Scott Shaffer, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Graham Shaw, SportingLife.com: 116-113 Marquez
Bob Sheridan: 115-114 Marquez
Bill Shimizu, Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
James Slater, EastSideBoxing.com: 116-112 Marquez
Michael David Smith, AOL NEWS/MMA Fighting.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Marquez
Patrick L. Stumberg, SBNation: 115-113 Pacquiao
Sean Sullivan, BoxingDigest: 115-114 Pacquiao
****** Tate, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
Terra (Brazil): 116-112 Pacquiao
Madra Uladh, EastSideBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
George Willis, New York Post: 115-113 Marquez
Michael Woods, ESPN/TheSweetScience.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Michael Wright, ESPNChicago.com: Draw
Among the unofficial scorers above, 57 scored the bout for Marquez, 51 scored the bout for Pacquiao, and the remaining 36 scored the bout a draw.

Which one was the robbery again? :-(

 

and if andre ward said that, you know something's up because ward is black and so is bradley, right?atsch

 

I agree that pac-bradley I was a close fight. but i think it was the right decision... bradley did a lot more than he got credit for down the stretch. but if you were watching the fight on tv, then it seemed like bradley was doing nothing, because that's how the hbo commentary went. the judges are the ONLY ones who have to give the fight their UNDIVIDED attention...they ALL scored it very close for bradley. for once, they did the right thing although it pissed off a lotta people.

lara-canelo was not close. lara scored a clear, convincing 8-4 win. lara-canelo was an actual robbery in favor of a rising marquee star with a huge fan base at the expense of a more talented opponent who deserved the decision but doesn't have big box-office drawing power. lara should have got the decision and the cotto fight...canelo could have gone back to the drawing board and fixed himself. in the end, the majority of people would have respected the sport of boxing for it's integrity instead of looking at it like a pointless joke.

that's the kind of thing that's killing boxing in a more insidious way.

 

Some people favor high activity without landed shots, evidenced by some claiming to score 5 or more rounds to Maidana against Mayweather. To those, Bradley did well against Pacquiao.

I thought there were some close rounds and I thought Bradley won 3 of them. Tough to imagine scoring this fight for Bradley... Not quite on the realm of 12-0 robberies like Chisora/Helenius and Abril/Rios, but it was a bad decision that does an injustice to the sake of the history books.

Pac/Bradley I is similar to Pac/Marquez III; the loser won between 6-10 rounds.

 

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