If Rooney had stayed with Tyson his whole career

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  1. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And Holyfield Kod Tyson:deal

    And made Mikey quit in the rematch bcause he knew he was gonna lose and was afraid to be humiliated in front of the whole wide world again:yep

    Holyfield - 2
    Tyson - 0
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :happy
     
  3. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Definitely not Bowe, Lewis or Foreman

    The only guy who posed a serious threat was Evander, he studied Tysons style to a T
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Definitely Lewis, Foreman, Douglas, Holyfield.
     
  5. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Word of advice, put him on ignore he is a liar, hypocrite and utterly deluded

    According to him Biggs was 'shot' (15-0-0) when he fought Tyson, because he was partying and taking drugs, but the same rules dont apply for Tyson losing to Douglas.

    check out some of his posts to see how full of sh** he really is
     
  6. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No Asser, Briggs was an addict, that's a fact! Tinkerbell Tyson ****ed a few ladyboys and all of a sudden that makes him Oliver Reed! :rofl
     
  7. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The guy he would lose to is the guy who he was already losing to: himself. No fighter in the history of the game who wanted any kind of longevity could afford to have the lifestyle outside the ring that he did.

    It's got little to do with Rooney. Hell he was already giving Rooney an almighty task by living it up like he did, either being drunk or high half the time and taking off days during training.
    Inevitably, with or without Rooney or Cus, he would have lost sooner rather than later. It was his own lack of discipline and poor choices made that cost him, not the loss of any one single person.
    He fell victim to the trappings of fame and lost his way. It's not rocket science.
     
  8. heavy_handss

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    evander holyfield would have beaten tyson with rooney or a looney toon in his corner, and with rooney or not it would have not changed too much the real facts
     
  9. heavy_handss

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    holyfield 91 would beat every version of tyson every day of the week
     
  10. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wass "ladyboys" haha genuinely funny stuff. Holy of 91 was simply
    too small, more of a blown up cruiser. He hit Foreman with what 20
    unanswered shots. Mike's chin was on the same level, no way Mike gets stopped before getting to Holy. Bert cooper had him out on his feet.
    I believe the Bowe fights made Holy what he was as a fighter. So a huge
    96 Holy is prob the best to beat Tyson, which he did. haha:!: and he threw
    everything and the kitchen sink to do it, cause Tyson was a tank.
     
  11. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Yeah, in 1991 Tyson beats Holyfield in a firefight.
     
  12. Chuck1052

    Chuck1052 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think that Mike Tyson was willing to pay the price by the time he met Buster Douglas. But Evander Holyfield was willing to do it his entire career.

    - Chuck Johnston
     
  13. Savak

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    By the time holyfield met Tyson in 1996 he had benefited from some quality fights with foreman, Holmes, bowe, Moorer along with some of the other guys that Tyson just demolished in seconds. There is no substitute for quality ring experience and unfortunately for Tyson the drawback of firing through your opponents is that in a real war when things don't go your way, you just don't know what to do, you will lack confidence, belief in yourself because you have never been in that situation before and if you have a **** corner, 4 years out of boxing and lack of quality fights, lack of quality training and the correct seriousness a tough fight deserves, you cannot beat a tactically smart holyfield.
     
  14. fists of fury

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    While I do agree that Holyfield by the time he fought Tyson in some respects was better than the smaller, 208 lb. version, we must not lose sight of the fact that he had diminished physically too.
    He had been in a lot of hard wars which inevitably took their toll on him. I would argue that Tyson physically was the fresher man when they fought, although as said lacking in quality rounds post prison.

    I'm a Tyson fan obviously (Holyfield fan too, by the way) but I do think Holyfield would be a tough fight for Mike regardless of when they fought. Tyson had shown small signs of slipping in the Bruno fight and by the time he and Holy would have fought Holyfield would be hitting his stride as a heavyweight.
     
  15. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    I agree, but I believe Tyson still had some left, enough to muster one last effort against a man whose sole (and soul) purpose at heavyweight was dethroning Iron Mike. Might've been the heavyweight version of Hagler-Hearns until Mike's power would prove too much. THEE ONE FIGHT I WISH HAD TAKEN PLACE with Bowe-Lewis coming in a strong second.