The Myths of Heavyweight boxing

you said he didn't become great, and that I agree with.

but its not because of wlad. its because he reached his thirties without doing anything except getting a medal. If Amir Khan et all did that they would be derided. POvetkin shouldn't get a free pass from that derision.

even into his thirties, all he landed was the wba's consessionary losers belt - which is not a world title however you look at it.

Fraudley Harrison has managed a bogus world title too, and he aint special.

 

Exactly. When you had fat 45 year old George Foreman fight former LHW Michael Moorer Americans claimed the 90s was entering a new golden era :rofl:rofl:rofl

Most Americans can't find Europe on a map nor spell any other country names than USA, Canada or Mexico. They're some of the least educated people on the planet. They automatically conclude that if none of their own fighters are in the top 10 in a division then that must mean the division is utter crap.

 

hes never been very good since his gold medal win. Along the way he lost it.
The man was last seen fighting Charr, post world title fight. That's freaking deplorable, Charr is an unskilled nobody whose name is only heard because the Klits don't mind pissing on their fans these days.

 

I think the HW division is pretty underrated in terms of talent and depth. Is all of that talent being put to use properly? No, obviously not, but things are definitely picking up.
Contenders are facing each other again, and not just waiting for their shot at Wlad.

We've seen unlikely stars break through. Who expected Takam to give Mike Perez a run for his money, and arguably beat him? I sure as hell didn't.... Then he proved it wasn't a fluke by schooling Thompson(near shut out) There have been some pretty nice fights this year as well.... Glazkov/Adamek, Cunningham/Mansour, Arreola/Stiverne II just to name a few, those were very entertaining fights.

Been a great year as well as very promising year so far, and it still isn't done yet. already this year we've seen......

Takam/Perez
Jennings/Szpilka
Povetkin/Charr
Stiverne/Arreola II
Glazkov/Adamek
Cunningham/Mansour
Solis/Thompson
Takam/Thompson
Wlad/Leapai

Upcoming fights.

Wlad/Pulev
Stiverne/Wilder(hopefully)
Fury/Chisora II(hopefully)
Perez/Jennings
Fury/Ustinov

Aside from noteworthy fights between contenders and prospects we've seen guys like Anthony Joshua, Joesph Parker, Charles Martin, Dominic Breazeale, Andy Ruiz, Jr. and Hughie Fury on the way up. Things aren't exactly as grim as the detractors/critics of the division would like to think.

 

wlad leapai and povetkin charr - if these are highlights to you then I am not sure what to say to tell you they plumb the depths of hw boxing.

Both are prime examples of promising or decent fighters beating up absolute nohopers. these are what Tyson would be doing when he was supposed to be in high school repeating a year, not when you are at the height of your powers and accomplishments in your thirties, though I acknowledge Wlad had no choice in facing Leapai because the division was so bad.

These fights would be nadirs of boxing in other eras, not great fights.

 

sure, KLitshcko is very decent at what he does, but a weak champion h2h, that's the truth of it, with the worst unrevenged losses of any 'dominant' hw champ.


never top three, but that's another debate. The focus of my argument there is on the opponent, not Wlad himself.

 

You mean like Schulz - Botha, Holyfield - Bean or Lewis - Mavrovich were great matchups? Yes these shitty mismatches or joke fights happened in the 90s and were billed as 'title fights' in the 'oh-so-stacked 90s' :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Both are noteworthy fights, highlights or not. Wlad/leapai wasn't really a highlight for me, even as big Wlad fan(for obvious reasons) but Povetkin/Charr was for sure..

Povetkin looked amazing. I haven't seen him like that in a long time, if ever. He looked in great shape and was also really aggressive, throwing lots of punches, good combinations - he looked excellent. Losing to Wlad was the best thing that could have happened to him, he's completely reinvented himself as a fighter. :deal

 

yep..but no. charr is NOT a live opponent. He doesn't even know how to box. he rushes in with his head down and arms out repeatedly. this is not boxing, its playground fighting.