The Myths of Heavyweight boxing

Lets not do a Wlad with Fury and claim he beats all the ATGs.

Holyfield would take Fury out. Fury's record does not permit a victory over a great fighter like Holyfield.

 

holy is much better than vitali true, though vitali would give him a tough fight because of his massive size advantages until holyman outboxed and outhustled him inside.

 

Fs some people question whether Wlad would be able to hang with the other greats in past era's. But apparently Fury can easily beat them. What the F is this guy talking about.

 

I think the reason people say the HW division is weak is because the other HWs haven't really proven themselves.

Povetkin's best win is over Chagaev, Wlad's leftovers. He also struggled against CW Marco Huck.

Haye's best wins are Ruiz and Chisora. He's had more cancelled fights than actual fights.

Pulev has only had 20 fights.

Thompson lost to Takam, and beat Solis in an ugly fight.

Stiverne is unproven. He has wins over Arreola, but other than that, his resume is poor.

Fury is undefeated, but he hasn't exactly looked impressive against his opponents.

Wilder is unproven.

 

It aint the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog

and the one man who encompasses that saying more than anyone is Evander 'The Real Deal' Holyfield.

And remember who Tyson Fury was named after, and who beat him twice :good

 

Chagaev being Wladimir's leftover doesn't actually lower the quality of the win, does it? The thing that should be actually noted in that case is that Chagaev wasn't at his career peak at the time Povetkin defeated him, but was still one of the best in world and even went to win a belt later in his career (although he is far from the world class now, and his "title" fight was worse than Stiverne - Arreola).

I really don't know how could anyone say that Povetkin hasn't proven himself. Olympic medals, world and European championships aside, he knocked out Bango in his 6th pro fight, then defeated Ahunanya right after that, then proceeded to beat Donald, Byrd and Chambers, winning the IBF tournament inside 15 pro bouts. He then went to defeat many solid and good opponents, including world class fighters until his only defeat against Klitschko, then most recently bounced back by knocking out Charr, a top 20 guy and former Vitali's title challenger.
If some contender should be considered "proven", then Povetkin is definitely the name.

David Haye, being the cruiser champion, was really hyped by the British media, while despite actually being a top class guy, hasn't exactly demonstrated that against the required HW opposition other than defeating solid, but far from impressive opponents, other than the Valuev win which is more significant because of the size difference rather than Valuev being a world class boxer.

As for Pulev, yes he has only 20 fights, and the experience might present one of the troubles once he faces Klitschko, but he did defeat two top 20 boxers at the time in Dimitrenko and Ustinov, then went to defeat Thompson who was top 10 at the time. It's a pity that he didn't fight the likes of Tyson Fury, Jennings or Adamek for example, but it was those guys who decided to avoid him.

 

Povetkin also fought old Rahman, and journeyman Cedric Boswell.

And Charr is a human punching bag.