The Myths of Heavyweight boxing

So far, he's lost every time he's stepped up. He lost to Vitali and Povetkin.

 

The point is that Charr would lose to everyone in the top 10 at HW.

 

Yes he did, but that doesn't change the facts, does it?

 

**** argument, wlad has lost to utter shites horribly, hes no yardstick for measuring charr.

 

yep, the reason this is speculation is because charr hasn't fought anyone in the top ten apart form those two douches who improbably gave him a shot.


peril's yardstick is the one that is non existent, yet hes trying to pretend yours doesn't exist! hes assuming charr is good based on a huge amount that HE HASNT DONE. LOL WTF.

 

37 year old retiree who never won anything (ie who went his whole career not achieving anything, IS CATEGORICALLY NOT 'VERY VERY TALENTED'. Notwithstanding that this was the absolute worst version of him.

You might want to try explaining WHY he was getting a title shot instead of pretending he was some legend.

but I see why you have pretend hes the opposite of his cv dictates. your house is built on lies.

 

Who said he was?

He certainly isn't elite.

There's quite a lot in between elite and bum.... and conditioning/drive is part of what makes someone elite. Potential doesn't make you elite.

 

There's a paper trail of the heavyweight division being at its all-time worst that stretches back to the 1930s. So when people write that the heavyweight division is at its all time worst I don't take it seriously. As if ten years from now the same people will declare it as something other than its all time worse.

 

Funny Thread!

Look at what the OP calls, Elite fighters. :rofl

 

You along w/joejr and others make good points.

The HW div is not weak, these past 10 or so years is the first time the comp has been at true world level. Of course there are sore losers :| b/c a certain group has lost their grip on the HW title, thus making it a "weak era" to those in deep denial.

 

The heavyweight division is not weak, it's just that the Klitschkos beat everyone they and has just about cleared out the division. Vladimir is now the top heavyweight in the world today................................

 

Bingo

Wlad has made more money than any HW. He is one of the hardest punchers in history and has a much higher KO ratio than the current "boxing superstar". He has had some ugly fights (Povetkin) but so did every celebrated HW legend.

He just isn't liked in the US/UK because they have some ignorant stereotypes about boxers/boxing in general and when they see some guy who smiles and wears turtlenecks is champion they dismiss the division and go back to watching pitbulls eat each other's balls off.

 

Watch Haye vs. Fragomeni. Watch how Haye struggled for many rounds. Then realize that Povetkin's style is very similar to Fragomenis, he's just 10 times better at it.