Mike Tyson vs. David Tua.

Tyson had more heart than Tua

people confuse Tuas chin, the fact is Tyson, even in his losses, was the aggressor, both in the Douglas and Holyfield fights

Tua on the other, shuts up shop when he realises things arent going his way

one fighter fights balls to the wall and gets knocked out, the other, does the silent treatment and makes the distance

 

Tyson more versatile.

 

Tyson was a better fighter and beat the better men, Tua could hit but was slow but also had late power, Tyson was fast but did not prove late power. I am thinking Tyson lands the bombs early and softens Tua up for a flurry and a beating TKO but if Tua lasts may have a late chance. My thinking is enough punishment is put on Tua early to end his aspirations

 

tyson was far better than tua end of .

 

No basically what you're saying is that Tyson could only fight one way, ploughing in with no adaptability,

 

Tyson was multi dimensional and pretty versatile from 85-88. When the early knock out never came, he adjusted and went for the decision instead. If anything it is Tua who is one dimensional with his boxing skills.

 

No you're wrong, I can recall commentators stating he was lacking imagination and being crude when he couldn't blast them out quickly.

 

Lol. Such high anticipations and expectations were from Tyson, every time he had a decision victory and didn't have a Ko, it was held against him. I have seen some Ali fights were commentators criticized his performance and tactics against certain opponents.

 

Tua didn´t have a jab to set up his attacks as Tyson used to have, only that gives Tyson a pretty decent advantage already.

 

Yeah but Ali's tactics and mindset were completely different, Tyson always wanted and tried for the knockout unless you believe Teddy Atlas who said Tyson and Smith had some sort of silent agreement.

 

I got this from another website and I thought it was very interesting. This past week Teddy Atlas was on the Jim Rome show and he gave some insights on Mike Tyson.


He talked about Mike and told a few stories of how he believed Mike never had that internal confidence or fortitude to be the great fighter he should have been.
The one story was when Mike was 16 and was engaged in an amatuer fight with a big white kid. Up to this point, in his amatuer career, he was killing everyone. Just one knockout after another. But in this fight Mike knocked the kid down twice in the first round. However, unlike his previous opponents the kid kept getting up. After the 1st round had ended he went back to his corner and told Teddy to stop the fight because his hand was broken. Teddy said that he knew it wasn't and feared that Mike was playing games. But he had to see if it was broke just in case. So he grabbed Mikes hand and squeezed it as hard as he could. Mike didn't even flinch. He continued to stare over Teddy's shoulder at his opponent. Atlas told Mike that 'your hand ain't broke, you're broke'. He could tell that Mike was scared. Up till now, everyone stayed down but this kid was game. Even though his opponent refused to stay down Mike was still easily winning the fight and he told Mike this.
Tyson begrudgingly went out for round two. Mike dropped him twice more in this round but once again, the kid kept getting up. So at the end of the round, Mike again sits down and tells Atlas to stop the fight because he's exhausted and he's going to get killed. Atlas got very angry at this point. He started yelling at Mike that he wasn't even getting hit. All of this kids shots were either missing or winging off of Mikes gloves and shoulders. He said that if he were the ref he'd have stopped the fight a long time ago because Mike was busting him up.
But he could tell that Mike was scared. Because this kid wasn't playing the role of the helpless lamb, he didn't know how to handle it. Eventually, Atlas had to grab Mike and literally shove him back into the ring to get him to fight.
The 3rd round starts and Mike and his opponent are just hugging each other. Neither one is punching just mauling. But then, at one point, the white kid is pushing Mike against the ropes and Atlas sees that Mike is going to go down - just like in the McBride fight, Teddy points out. Atlas jumps on the edge of the canvas and yells at Mike "Don't you do what I think you're going to do!". Eventually the bell rang and Mike got the "W" but like Atlas pointed out, he was going to tank the fight simply because this kid was standing up to him and he'd never experienced that before.
Atlas said that the same thing kind of happened in the Tucker and Bonecrusher fights. Mike was winning both fights easily until about the 5th and 6th rounds, when he realised that neither guy was going to just take a shot and lay down, so he decided to accept what Teddy called "silent treaties". A silent treatie is when both fighters clinch and silently agree to not throw punches. Kind of like "I won't hit you if you don't hit me". Atlas said that both Tucker and Bonecrusher didn't mind agreeing to these because they didn't want to get hurt.
Teddy then pointed out that the first fighter that stood up to Mike was Buster Douglas and he knocked Mike out. The week before the Douglas fight Buster's mom had died and Buster was in the mind set of "Your punches won't hurt nearly as much as the pain I'm in from this death".
Atlas agreed that Mike had incredible physical tools and should have retired one of the all time greats. But his mental weaknesses were always his downfall and the reason why he never developed to his full potential.


Just goes to show how mentally fragile Tyson could be, that would be a big factor in facing David Tua!

 

I would take anything Teddy said with a grain of salt. The dude was butt hurt that Tyson stayed with Cus after Cus gave him the boot. You don't become undisputed world champ with 9 successful defenses by being mentally fragile.

 

I get it, so everybody that as a bad word to say against your beloved hero is talking rubbish. Atlas knew Tyson's mindset better than most people, sure I'll listen to you over Teddy.

 

The typical pattern when these Tyson groupies get here is if you don't bow down to their idol Michelle Tinkerbell and point out his foibles and even supply anecdotes from boxing experts you are a "hater" and must be wrong.:huh