Very telling interview w Emanuel Steward

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    IN addition to the portion of this clip regarding Hearns and Floyd Steward goes into size in heavyweight boxing and how significant it impacts outcomes. He pretty much spells it out from his perspective .. guess what, it makes a huge difference ..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_0GSE-A6Uk
     
  2. fists of fury

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    Nice interview. I agree with his choices in those mythical matchups.
     
  3. Mendoza

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    If you add up all of Bowe's, Lewis' and Klitschko fights, they only lost one decision.
     
  4. Brixton Bomber

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    If there was ANY fighter that was completely wrong for Floyd, it'd be Tommy Hearns.

    I don't think you could have made a bigger mismatch.
     
  5. McGrain

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    It's extremely difficult to find a poster who thinks size isn't enormously important.

    Corbett, Marciano and Louis also lost only one decision between them.
     
  6. Mendoza

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    And neither fought a super heavyweight that was much taller, longer and heavier with skills. Rocky was behind on points a few times.

    Corbett vs Jeffries 1 was even prior to the KO.

    There are still quite a few posters who think size is no big deal and will conjure up names like Valuev and Willard.

    If you're giving up 6 inches and 40 pounds it's like asking a light weight to beat a light heavyweight.
     
  7. McGrain

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    Well Vitali only fought one significantly better than Carnera and he got stopped.

    Basically the statistic you produced is no more meaningful than the one I did.
     
  8. Mendoza

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  9. Mr Butt

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    Bingo
     
  10. McGrain

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    But we agree that size combined with skill matters?

    The statistic i've provided proves that less size and skill also matters.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    My point was the guys you mentioned did not lose a decision because they were ko'd or never fought a skilled super heavyweight. How was this wrong?
     
  12. McGrain

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    Well Lewis got KTFO twice, Vitali quit and was stopped, Wlad was KTFO three times...eight stoppage losses between them, more than the three I picked out.

    So I really don't know what your point is at all. Mine is that your statistic is true, but pretty meaningless in the great scheme of things.
     
  13. fists of fury

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    No doubt size matters. But the example you gave here Mendoza is a little awry. A few pounds in the lighter ranks can be greatly significant, but giving away say 10 pounds as a heavyweight doesn't really count for much if anything.

    40 pounds? Sure...depends ultimately still on the skill of the fighters involved though, as history has proven many times.
    In general, a good big man will beat a good little man, I've got no issue with that.
    There will always be exceptions to that rule too.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    To clarify, anyone at heavyweight can get knocked out or injured. No one said they were unbeatable. I will say this. The power level and size of the fighters from the 1990's to present (dawn of super heavies with skills) is far more than most eras. As such the puncher's chace for champions is greater.

    My point is super heavyweight with skills have huge advantages over smaller opponents, and if it goes to the cards they have won in all cases but one. Infact, they are seldom behind on the cards vs smaller men. Do you agree with the last paragraph?
     
  15. McGrain

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    Yeah, I said that a size advantage was "enormously important" in post three or something.

    I think a size advantage is a significant advantage, like a skill advantage or an experience advantage.