Hopkins irritated with Kellerman when questioned about Kovalev fight

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  1. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't sense much disrespect. Max was trying to show him respect by explaining the situation of a 50 year old taking on the most feared man at lhw. Maybe he was off about this possibly being his best win but if Segei goes on to do good things, even that claim might not be far off. Max and Bhop always had a little thing going. Max would cut off Bhop regularly in interviews.
     
  2. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    While I agree with the premise that Max was being a hater, and should have not discounted Bernards chances and prior accomplishments.........

    I wholly disagree that it will take an old overnight Hopkins for Sergey to beat.

    You are acting like Hopkins wins at LHW are better than Sergey, and this simply is not the case.

    His two biggest wins at LHW are undoubtedly Pascal and Pavlik.

    Pavlik was a MW who was self-destructing immediately after his first big win over Taylor. How Pavlik managed to beat Taylor in the rematch with as much as he was boozing is beyond me.....
    Pascal was a HUGE win for the then 46 yo Hopkins. And while that win was hugely impressive, it came with an asterisk as Pascal gassed big time in both fights, and many still believe Pascal won them both.

    Now, I will admit that Shumenov in his last fight was completely dismantled, Beibut has claimed he was shaken mentally by something he signed prior to the fight. What it was is undisclosed, but Pavlik wasnt compliant in what he signed, nor was Pascal prior to signing it.

    So, we can PRETEND like NonDisclosureAgreements don't exist in boxing and that medical waivers are NOT GRANTED.....but we can't pretend a prime, destroyer like KOvalev will be shaken by it. And he won't be gassing out like Pascal did, and he won't be adding vodka to his V-8s during his training camps.

    I don't believe BHop could EVER beat Kovalev. With or without TRT. But that's just me. Never been a fan, and I don't forget robberies like Wright over Soliman or Eastman over Soliman or Shumenov over Campillo or Cloud over Campillo.....those robberies factor in my decision....not using the triangle theory, but using those fighters current standing vs the other top guys and how Hopkins beat their robbers.:think:think:think
     
  3. pride4jc1222

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    I don't know how long you have been watching boxing, but those who watched B-Hop before the turn of the millennium know that Max clearly disrespected B-Hop. By using Trinidad, Pavlik, Pascal, and Cloud as examples of B-Hop's best wins, while leaving out wins over the likes of John David Jackson, Glen Johnson, and Andrew Council, Max made it sound as if he totally forgot about B-Hop's accomplishments during the 1990's. That is what got B-Hop irritated.
     
  4. Joejr

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    What were they made to sign
     
  5. skier47

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    I don't care much for Kellerman. His daddy's connections got him his job but I thought this was one of his better interviews. He was very respectful of Hopkin's amazing record and showed real awe at Hopkin's boxing ability and willingness to fight the big puncher at age 50. Hopkins was just being his typical miserable, arrogant, disrespectful self. He is a guy most decent people would try to avoid in real life. Unless you kiss his butt full time he turns on you.
     
  6. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Dude are you seriously trying to make the case that Kovalev has better than or equal to the same wins as Hopkins at light heavyweight? I know you're a habitual hater of American boxers, but it doesn't take a Hopkins fan to know that you're full of **** by making that assumption. Kavalev is yet to beat anyone on the level of Tavori Cloud, a win which many try to under value. I wonder why you refused to mention that Hopkins also beat the Lineal Light Heavyweight Champion Atonio Tarver, doing so by moving up from middle weight.
     
  7. Joejr

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    Cloud?lmfao campillo got robbed against cloud and kovalev stopped him in 3


    Cloud was never a good champion and you about to see how shot he is when 4-0 beterbeiv beats him into retirement
     
  8. daprofessor

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    bhop is pretty much in a no lose situation. he's 50 damn years old and has no business in the ring with a guy like kovalev. all the pressure is on kovalev. anything less than a KO win for kovalev will be a failure. bhop will more than likely take this guy to school. i've seen enough defenciencies in kovalevs game to know that bhop can exploit them, even at his adavanced age. if kovalev should land a significant shot...he has to be able to follow it up to get bhop out of there. after all of these years of watching him do his thing...i just don't think kovalev has the skills necessary to get the job done. sure, he has a punch...but that's about it. there are dimensions to boxing. bhop is going to show u a bunch of them come fight night.
     
  9. daprofessor

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    as for the interview...it is what it is...the spark that bhop always looks for to motivate himself in training. he thrives on the nay sayers words. he thrives being the underdog. he lives to prove ppl wrong. that's his M.O. take it for what it is.
     
  10. chitownfightfan

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    Non Disclosure Agreements.

    Saying they would not discuss the contracts.

    But of course drunk @ss Pavlik screwed up and nearly spilled the beans. Pascal was silenced just after the contracts were signed, and Shumenov simply said he couldnt talked about what disturbed him.

    Pretty sure EVERYONE knows what the NDAs were about. IE testing and the medical waiver granted for Bernards hypo-gonadism, and his testosterone replacement regimen.

    I guess when your'e making a few million bucks against an old man, you go head and take the shot. Shumenov froze, Pavlik drowned his sorrows, and Pascal left it in the gym.

    I can't imagine it will deter Kovalev. And Kathy Duva doesnt seem at all bothered by it.:think
     
  11. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    where's your proof?
     
  12. Joejr

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    I wouldn't either if I was kovalev

    Unfortunetly with Williams jr getting beat and Hopkins soon to retire 175 will be called weak as there are no Americans dispute th fact 175 is about to enter a golden age with kovalev,Adonis and beterbeiv,mekhontsev,gvodsyk,hooper,Callum smith and ward and de la cruz all coming through the ranks
     
  13. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thank you.

    But you forgot to talk about 39 y/o Tarver who's claim to fame is beating 39 yo veteran Glen Johnson and dead at LHW RJJ.

    I will admit though, that since Tarver discovered TRT himself, that he has improved 10 fold.:lol::lol::lol:

    Too bad RJJ got caught and couldnt get folks on board with the NDAs. :lol:
     
  14. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    pavlik had the flu and slow feet. they should have postponed that fight but his trainer said "you don't leave that kind of money sitting on the table." hindsight is 20/20.

    where's your proof that they had to sign non disclosure agreements chitownfightfan?
     
  15. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    The NDAs are proof enough.

    I don't need proof when attorney's are bringing lawsuits and hush order agaisnt Kelly Pavlik for shouting out somehting in a drunken stupor or Pascal saying test test test, then when he signs, he's suddenly silent and says NDA.

    That is PROOF ENOUGH.

    NTM....Im 40+ myself. And had 12 concussions and suffer. So guess what......I got a medical waiver and if was to fight......I'd be roided to the gills......I got 2K MGs sitting in a bottle right now, and 6K more sitting at the druggists. :lol::lol::lol: