History of professional boxing if Soviet countries could fight pro?

2011 world championship team exact same as olympics 2012 team except some guys didnt qualify and terrell gausha went at middleweight instead of Jesse Hart, due to the Americans not sending Hart to the next qualifying event after failing to qualify the first time

same with the 2007 team and the 2008 olmypics

you argument doesnt make sense anyway its for you to prove it right iv just proven mine right. if what you said is true and the USA only care about the olympics then why would they not send their best team to the qualifying events eg. the world championships? are the people running the organisation ******ed and dont understand simple logic or are you just making a fool of yourself?

logic would state its the latter

 

Cuba's one eenie meenie tiny country in terms of population compared to the US of A and has, in relative terms, performed better than any other country in boxing in the Olympics.
11 million inhabitants and a total of 34 Olympic Golds, 67 total.
USA 300 million inhabitants and 49 Golds, 110 total.
Cuba KO'd the USA in my book.

 

You also have to factor in Cuba half only competed in half of the numer of Olympics as America have and America won a lot of there medals when they were effectively competing against themselves

 

Who just qualified for the 2016 Olympics who won at the latest World Championships?

The U.S. didn't care about the World Championships because it wasn't a qualifier for the Olympics until, apparently, recently.

Throughout the 20th Century, it wasn't.

To make the U.S. team, you had to win the Olympic Trials and/or the Box-offs. What happened YEARS before the Olympics meant nothing.

I believe that changed in 2004. That was the first time I watched the box-offs, and at least one of the guys who won wasn't on the U.S. team. That wasn't the case for the previous 90 years or so.

I remember telling Angel Manfredy's brother that winning the box-offs didn't get you in anymore, and he was shocked - because his family was involved in amateur boxing their whole lives.

Like I said, I don't really follow amateur boxing anymore. You seem to know a lot about the current amateur game.

I'll ask you about it when the next Olympics roll around. Because, until then, I don't care. And neither do most boxing fans in the U.S.

And the current rules have nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

Gotta go.

 

So, what you're saying is, in the entire history of the World Championships (from 1974 to whenever the last one was), one recent team the U.S. sent was kind of the same as their Olympic team, but none were better.

Got it.

Thanks for proving my point.

Peace.

 

I have to say, you're one of the greatest debaters I've ever met on this forum. you really know you stuff. Good Job.
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Maybe that has something to do with Cuba sending its absolute best boxers and America simply sending its best amateurs?

 

OK, you clearly are thinking of Russia and not the Soviet Union. The Soviet Unions population was equivalent to the USA, and if you add in the other Eastern Bloc countries then the population was FAR in excess of America.

And pre 1990, it WAS boys against men a lot of the time. You had Russian guys pushing 30 fighting guys just out of highschool.

Cuba used to have guys like Stevenson and Savon who carried on into their 30s.

And they would be fighting US guys who by and large went pro in their early 20s.

Nopwadays, Cubans are going pro in large numbers along with guys from the old soviet union.

You think if things were as strict as back in the day Rigo/Gamboa etc wouldnt still be competring in the Olympics for Cuba?

 

Currently Americas population is over twice what Russia's is, if you add in the soviet countries it's still smaller than the USA, add in the eastern block countries and there pretty similar

 

In 1990 America had a population of 248,709,873
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_the_United_States#Historical_population[/url]

In 1990 The Socviet Union had a population of 290,938,571
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union#Population_2[/url]

So the Soviet Union had quite a larger population than America.

And thats before you look at the other Eastern Bloc countries like Romania, Yogoslavia, Hungary etc

 

I stand corrected,today however the population of America is equal or close to the entire Soviet Union and eastern europe

 

Indeed. American population has incresed strongly from Immigration, whereas Eastern Europe has a diminishing population from low birth rates and emigration.

 

We would've never seen one of the most iconic, historically significant event in the sport's history in Rocky Balboa vs. Ivan Drago.

Also, today's HW division would be a clusterf*ck of C- fools beating up each other for a shot at constantly switching titleholders.

 

Sure. Something. But with only 11m inhabitants that's still very impressive and a testament to their successful system. USA, not so much (anymore).

 

Yup