Carl Froch asking via facebook who fans want next GGG/Chavez/Degale?

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  1. big moose

    big moose Active Member Full Member

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    The only fights that would improve Froch's legacy are wins against Ward or a genuine, proven LHW champion - Stevenson/ Kovalev / Hopkins. The other options might pique the interest but can have too many holes picked in them to enhance his standing.

    GGG - totally unproven at the weight, he isn't even universally accepted as "the man" at MW (though I personally think he is the division's stand-out talent). GGG would need to clean up MW before there's any justification for dragging him up to SMW.

    Chavez Jr - undisciplined meat-sack who ate himself out of MW. Was fairly recently beaten up by Martinez, who was then beaten-up by Cotto, who is generally viewed as second best to GGG. So, if GGG is a non-legacy enhancing pick, what does that make Chavez? Still, it'd be the most exciting of the OP's choices and I wouldn't begrudge Froch the experience of a big night in Vegas.

    DeGale - domestic level dust-up against Groves' sloppy seconds. 'nuff said
     
  2. Adil

    Adil Active Member Full Member

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    So far GGG surpassed Degale in votes:
    Chavez - 10.6k
    GGG - 7.9k
    Degale - 6.9k
     
  3. drozzy

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    GGG's fans are around the world. Mexicans are going to bed in a few hours. :hey
     
  4. second to none

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    Calzaghe is still ahead of Froch, has Froch ever beaten a fighter of the callabre of Bhop? He's not even beat someone as good as prime Kessler, in fact he lost to Kessler and only beat a semi shot version. Calzaghe was the best fighter at SMW and LHW Froch has yet to be the best at SMW let alone LHW. Calzaghe is still well ahead of Froch and the only win Froch can get to put him on Calzaghe's level is Ward and that isn't happening.
     
  5. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :deal

    The fact that Froch would do this on Facebook, rather than on sites where serious boxing fans post says it all!!

    :lol:

    Great idea in theory but we know that voting will be like some third world country "election", whereby the President wins (for the tenth time) by one vote...his own!!

    A better idea may infact be if a group of independent boxing fans set up similar polls (via Facebook or similar social media site)...then contact Carl and show him the results of their polls.:hey

    ESB has too small a membership...besides, we're boxing fans in the 21st century, since when did our opinions get took into consideration and the obvious fights that we wanted to see, get made??
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It's amazing what people over on the island think of guys like Groves and DeGale.
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    *** Removed you from the ignore list for this one reply ***

    Let's take a look at Froch's record and Calzaghe's.

    Froch: Abraham, Kessler, Bute, Groves x2, Johnson, Dirrell, Taylor and Pascal.

    Calzaghe: Kessler, Lacy and Hopkins(he's hanging on to this win for dear life).

    Add to this, Froch went to Taylor's backyard with his title. Not to forget traveling for the likes of Abraham, Ward and Kessler. This is something Calzaghe would never do unless his targets were senior citizens. Now have fun crying.
     
  8. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    A very fair point, but if Froch himself is putting up GGG on a Facebook poll as (possibly) his next opponent then people can consider GGG as a possible opponent, surely?

    I am a huge fan of Froch's but he is well past prime and I can envisage a scenario whereby GGG (who does not seem to have much by way of competition at 160) steps up to 168 to fight an aging and vulnerable champion.

    If Froch-vs-GGG were to be made, then perhaps the old warhorse might even consider another trip to the USA? As a GGG-vs-Froch fight is a bona fide USA box office fight.

    My guess is Chavez Jnr will be Froch's next fight (a minor USA box office event which is a very winnable fight for The Corba). Assuming all goes to plan and The Cobra wins, then maybe GGG (who's dominance at seems to be capturing the imagination of the US) in a megabucks swansong...

    What do you think Scar??
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    When comparing to HOF'ers/ATG's, Froch's wins over Dirrell and Groves I actually hinder his argument. And you can't list the first Kessler fight as a victory for Froch; he lost a close fight fair and square.
     
  10. Scar

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    Both Dirrell and Groves gave Froch hell so they easily deserve to be mentioned. Dirrell was also beating Abraham before the disqualification. By the way, edited out the "x2" next to Kessler's name, thanks for the heads up, overlooked it there.
     
  11. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    The tragic thing (for Calzaghe fans, anyway) is that whilst I firmly believe that (prime for prime) Joe would have beat Froch comfortably, Froch's willingness to fight anyone has ensured that The Cobra does indeed have a resume that shits all over Joe's!!

    I have posted numerous times on here over the years that Calzaghe's ego and desire to protect his "0" would greatly harm his legacy...
     
  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I think you're absolutely spot on and I can't disagree with anything there. Though I'm not sure GGG would be interested in moving up since he made it clear recently that he plans to stay at 160. If he gets the green light that Froch will be interested to fight him then he might as well get a tune-up at 168 before facing Froch.
     
  13. Scar

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    Calzaghe took overprotecting the "0" to another level. He literally stayed in hiding his entire career and fully accepted being completely unknown. It's hilarious that his fans can't see the comedy in him, despite having 40 fights, celebrating a win over someone with 21 fights like it's the greatest thing he ever did.
     
  14. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    I don't see how close wins over Dirrell and Groves hinder Froch's argument Nonito.

    Both were/are genuine world class fighters who were certainly not way past prime like many of Joe's opponents (many never had a noteworthy prime).

    Like I have said previously, prime for prime..I believe that Calzaghe would have beat Froch comfortably. But if Joe had beat Dirrell and Groves, one could make the argument that they would have been top five (certainly top ten) wins for Joe.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Well, yeah... Agree with all of that.

    But did Calzaghe ever have anyone who "gave him hell" in defeat other than Hopkins?

    Nearly half of the top caliber opponents Froch has faced either beat him or "gave him hell" (one could argue Taylor falls into that category as well being that Froch needed a last minute KO to secure victory).