Do you consider Jack Dempsey fast when watching his footage

and comparing with guys like prime Ali, Tyson and Roy Jones Jr ?

I don't tbh, with this I'm not saying he is slow don't get me wrong, but I see a gap quite clear between those guys and the Dempsey that we see against Firpo, Willard, etc.
Want to hear serious opinions.

 

Have you seen any of the modern computerized speed corrected film of him?

 

I think so. Maybe it wasn't the corrected speed though, I don't know.

 

No one takes my opinions seriously - which is fair since I take very few people's opinions here seriously. But I think you have asked a serious, fair and sincere question - so - I will, as I often do offer quotes from trainers and professional journalists like the one following from Mike Casey's site, But I will admit that I have had the rare privilege of seeing for myself the computer enhanced and real-time speed corrected version of film in question and would agree it is most impressive. But who am I? The opinions of the professionals follow - if anyone disagrees please feel argue with them... >>
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"Mike Hunnicut recently told me that the ‘real time’ film of the Dempsey-Willard fight (not the familiar, herky-jerky version by which Dempsey is so often misjudged) remains the most terrifying vision of a destructive fighter he has seen in all his years of studying motion pictures.

Says Mike, “When you watch the films of Joe Louis and zoom in, it’s incredible to behold what Joe could do – fantastic.

“But a real close-up view of Dempsey in real time has an almost surreal quality to it – his incredible animal-like moves and co-ordination, his terrific punch and all-round toughness. It absolutely floors the viewer. These are the qualities that the Lou Stillmans and the Ray Arcels were referring to." << End Quote

 

Yes, it is truly frightening what Dempsey did to a fat, old farmhand who hadn't fought in 4 years.

 

He's faster in the sparring footage. Looks much better than in some of those grainy fight films. There's a montage dedicated to him on youtube that uses both and is pretty fun to watch.

 

Where could I view this?

 

He was fast watch the big bill Tate sparring footage. It's a better gage of his speed.

 

Hey, Nicolai Firtha went around four hard rounds with Deontay Wilder. Firtha's no fat farmhand okay?!

 

Would like links to the digital versions.

 

Speed to me is how a fighter can execute a volley when on the offense. The fancy flash is sometime there for effect Tunney,Walcott,Ali,Patterson had fast hands but Dempsey got in to beat Tunney with combo (Battle of the long count) and this Jack was rusty from inactivity, Marciano beat Walcott and Layne and Charles and Moore, etc with punches and combo in his range (and Marciano is supposed to be slow) Frazier beat Ali to the punch many times in the FOTC and Joe Louis on attack may have left himself open but had faster execution than many speedy guys. Dempsey was fast for a guy who put much behind his 2-fisted attack but his style was not for the flash and no cash, he hit you to hurt you and was fast enough despite the rust in later years ( he was quick dispatching Sharkey with a quick left hook before Sharkey could say "he hit me in the balls"

 

To ESB posters who doubt the Dempsey speed attack in his prime, remember to take into account the quality and true speed of the hand cranked camera's.. This being said,
google the Dempsey / Firpo fight in which there is a scene where Dempsey and Firpo are
in a clinch, and Dempsey pries his left hand away from Firpo, and with no leverage or
punching room, smashes a volley of savage and speedy left uppercuts to the head of
Firpo, that is breathtaking to watch...I have never seen this savage display of left
uppercuts combined with great speed ,all without any punching room from any other
fighter regardless of weight before . See for yourself folks since...

 

i agree, i watched him once and again and i never did think that he was very fast... honestly i never saw nothing special in dempsey but natural aggressiveness, he was dinamic on the feet, but i never understood why he had the fame of being fast od hands because he was not...specially for a 187 pounder

 

this

 

The problem is that most of the footage of him is either sped up or slowed down!

I don’t think it is fair to compare him to Roy Jones, who is a much smaller fighter.

You can be slower than Ali or Tyson, and still be pretty darn fast for a heavyweight.

I think that he was probably among the faster heavyweight champions, and the fact that he could throw punches in such a short distance, magnified the effect.