greatest fighters of all time top 10 1940-present

let's get a few things straight...these guys are longer to be included on any pfp listing

- harry greb - nobody has ever seen tape of this guy ...no one knows anything about his fighting style. stop puttin him on your list.

- marciano- this guy does not belong on the list of the top 10 HW, much less pfp. He was a bottom feeder who struggled with a buncha old lightheavyweights and retreads from a previous era.

- willie pep - the so-called boxing master who myth has it won a round without ever throwing a punch...whatever. dude lost to sandy sadler 3 out of 4. he was OK...maybe top 100, but not top 10.


- duran- all of this because he beat SRL in their first fight in which leonard elected to go toe-to-toe instead of box. had SRL taken his time and fought is normal fight it would have been like their second and third fights in which duran hardly won a round....hey, duran was a good lw champ, but he got beat by dejesus who was just OK..dejesus dropped him twice in two fights. duran struggled with ray lampkin who was a second rater. if duran had problems with those guys, imagine what SSM, or Sweet Pea or FMJ would have done to him. They would all have handled him with ease. I even give kostya tszyu a good shot at beating duran...aaron pryor, arguello, benitez and JCC too. Hell, I even give edwin rosario and hector camacho a pretty good shot at beating duran at lightweight. but the thing is, duran wasn'tg even the best lightweight up until his era...there were guys like henry armstrong and ike williams who should rank above him.

 

so, if i was a better race baiter i would have a leg to stand on, huh?

and what's a "professional victim"? is that from your fox news anthology of how to talk to black people?

 

y'all think i don't understand...but i do. duran has to be included in every list because he's the latin representative. marciano has to be included because he's the only white fighter who achieved any prominence since dempsey about 100 years ago. so, i guess it would be polite to include those guys...and i can see a lotta hurt feelings out there when a top 10 list is all black...but what y'all need to understand is this: race doesn't matter to me. i don't see race. therefore, i don't consider it racially insenstive to have a list that's all black. those are the BEST fighters of all time...it's only COINCIDENTAL that they are all black. i mean, if cst80 made a list of the top 10 hockey players of all time and they were all white, should i call him a racist? there are blacks and latinos who play hockey too.

 

well, lemme ask you this...if el cyclon had said that his favorite fighters were canelo, mikey garcia, JMM and leo santa cruz, would you have accused him of being racist?

 

lennox was a great heavyweight, but he got ko'd by mccall and rahman. neither of those guys were that good. beating a shopworn tyson and an over the hill holyfield didn't prove anything to me. but i will say that peak lennox would give ANY heavyweight in history a lotta problems. I rank him in the top 10 at heavyweight and in the top 50 all time.

 

# 11-21

11- henry Armstrong
12- sandy sadler
13- Larry Holmes
14- Evander Holyfield
15- George Foreman
16- Archie Moore
17- guillermo rigondeaux
19- michael spinks
19- tito trinidad
20- Tommy hearns

 

of course...i think floyd is one of the best fighters who ever lived. he's controversial and he's a modern day fighter which takes away from the recognition he should be getting...but i think if people really look at what he's accomplished and continues to accomplish at significant physical disadvantages, there's no question that he deserves to be top ten based on a ability.