Which heavyweight you rank higher ATG, Vitali Klitschko or Riddick Bowe

I thought this was already addressed? It seems you have forgotten already.I will be kind enough to reiterate. Briggs had gassed himself out beating Lewis in the first two rounds and became tired was completely open for counters. He displayed zero heart or experience in that fight.

Against Vitali he had bulked up and gained quite a bit of heart and had the experience to hold on when he got hurt. His quote after saying Vitali was the hardest puncher he faced is the tying thread to this point.

Against Chisora Vitali was clearly on the downslide at 41, and won an easy fight against a man 12 years his junior easy fight by pot shotting and out boxing Chisora. Haye was still in his physical prime against Chisora and won a brawl.

Now about Lewis I will post it again because you probably forgot,‘That was my hardest fight against the strongest opponent and hardest puncher I faced." /endthread

Do you know what context is?


Well you don't possess it!

 

A 48 year old Foreman who fought Briggs roughly 13 years before Vitali finally did deserved the decision against a far better version of Briggs than the one Klitschko fought.

BOTTOM LINE - Vitali beating Briggs? Who cares?

 

Are you sure about that? It was Briggs first title fight, he had much less experience, zero heart and less cardio.

Foreman, the greatest puncher in the history of the sport, hit Briggs with nearly 70% of his jabs and 65% of his power punches and yet could not KO Briggs.
Now does this piece of evidence invalidate the argument that "if this guy didn't KO him then his power is overrated" or are you going to continue with the logical path of your argument and say Foreman's power is overrated?

 

I doubt he remembers what he ate for breakfast.

 

It was probably his treasured Tyson whizzer! :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

/endthread

 

Those stats are misleading.

How many actual punches did Foreman throw and land, compared to Vitali.

Its easy pulling of percentages and manipulating the figures.

What if Foreman only threw 10 punches and landed 7?

That would mean Foreman landed '70%' of his power punches

 

Your talking to the most ******ed poster on the website, don't waste your time.

He has to use his alts to gang up on you

 

LOL.. He was 40 years old against Klitscko and hadn't been past the first round in literally years... Yeah, he had better cardiovascular endurance in 2010 than he did in 1997 alright.

 

He was 38 actually, when you have to fib the beginning of your statement it shows the weakness of your argument.

He hadn't been past the first round because he had been viciously knocking people out, a positive not a negative.
If you actually watched the Klitschko Briggs fight(which I doubt you have) you will see the tremendous heart, courage and stamina Shannon displayed in that fight.

Briggs collapsed after the fight and was hospitalized with facial fractures. He never suffered injuries like that aginst Lewis.

He was a one hitter quitter during the Wilson, Lewis and Foreman period of his career.

 

It would be misleading to suggest that Foreman only landed 7 power shots too, but I see your point.

Vitali hurt Briggs a few times in a fight that should have been stopped. Briggs slipped into a coma after the fight and the doctors could not wake him up for a while. Tragedy was close.

Briggs said Vitali hit harder than Foreman. I would agree that Vitali did hit harder than the Foreman of the 1990's.

 

Again with the ALT accusations. If you feel so adamant that this is what is going on then get a mod to check IP addresses and prove it or shut up.

 

As they say in billiards rack 'em. What you wrote us true.

 

what a biased poster without a clue of that bias you are

not that i claim Bowe couldn't beat Vitali at their primes, its possible. i just claim the points you make are all over the top,,,,

as in, "Bowe is 100 times better than Lewis who looked like a buffoon" what a stupid point and stated over the top to give away your bias

and, "prime Golata was much better than Vitali in terms of jab, head movement, upper body movement and punch selection" , what a stupid statement, even if you stated, "i feel Golota's jab was better than Vitali's" i could of considered it but that's just BIAS. Golota was not "a lot better" than Vitali in those terms. Vitali has very STIFF upper body movement but its potentially better than Golota's. Vitali's jab and punch selection are potentially better than Golotas and so is his head movement. How you cant see this is because of your BIASED.

You cant see it, you refuse and why?

Your in denial of your biased because you cant handle REALITY.

Bowe MATCHED up well against HOLY. Did a great job against HOLY.

Lewis beat HOLY as well even though the judges each time had their heads up their asses getting the first match up dead wrong and the second match up too much for Lewis. Regardless, WE all saw that Lewis could SCORE on HOLY and win while not giving into HOLYs brawling tactics while BOWE could not keep HOLY away and had to BRAWL with him giving into his reach and distance advantages over HOLY.

BOWE therefore defined himself by going toe to toe with HOLY over 3 matches in his absolute prime and then what else? What else not BASED on stating first, "if he would of trained" ??

Bowe sucked against Golota correct? He could not get Golota out of there nor could he keep Golota off him. Golota aint mr quick your aware? Lewis steam rolled Golota. Bowe could not steam roll good opponents like Lewis did on occasions. Bowe sucked but had great potential and a awesome LOOKING JAB. So his jab looked AWESOME. How often did Bowe put that awesome jab together to beat top fighters over 12 rds or a few rds???

Is your ANSWER zero because that's the answer is it not fella?

How well did Lewis use his LESS AWESOME looking jab to help him win fights over 12rds or less ?

Is your answer "ALOT" ?

Well now you can go back to being BIASED, just use powerful denial it works wonders.