When some fighters lose their 0 and Groves (undefeated confidence)

only needed to read this far to know which card you were playing this time :good

 

if calzaghe had manned up and absorbed a few losses by going to America early on, tghen this thread would never exist,

 

if you are so easily hurt longtime by a loss then theres something wrong with you.

Who would want to work with someone who fades out just because they had a bad day at the office? They'd get the sack and be considered less than employable. They'd be sent to the doctor for help. good boxers generally aren't like this, or else they wouldn't be good in the first place.

 

And what Americans would have beat him early in his career?

Are these the same Americans who avoided eubank like the plague

 

Roy Jones
James Toney

Thats 2 I can think of.

Even though Toney was in full buffet mode by the late 90s.

 

Most of the time I don't think it has a negative effect. Only on rare occasions is a boxer so mentally weak that he can't handle a loss and if they can't handle a loss, they don't have the right mentality for boxing anyway.

A loss can also have a positive effect as you can learn from them. It can highlight areas in technique and attitude which can be improved.

 

Tibet was already gone to higher weights around then

And jones refused to fight benn,eubank and flat out ducked Collins and the pole latter on

Jones stayed well out of the way from a lot of threats across the water

 

Go read Chris Eubanks: The Autobiography.

In it you'll find a section where he openly states, that he never wanted to fight Jones when he was in his prime. He openly admits that he didnt think he could beat Jones.

Jones-Benn wasnt made because of politics which Benn admitted,(Don King strikes again) and also said on Sky that "he didnt mind being considered #2 to Roy Jones"

This is all public knowledge.

 

Im not making this up, Eubank says that he never wanted to fight Jones because he didnt think he could beat him.

I obviously dont have the book on me, but thats what he says.

He ddi try to make it after he lost to Collins twice and Jones wasnt interested.

Jones simply was shjowing respect by saying that Eubank would give him problems. He never openly said he wouldnt fight Eubank though

 

Agreed.

Although I would say a KO loss is more likely to make a guy question his ability to absorb a punch.

 

this, for instance Mikkey Kessler became less cochsure after his first loss, less intent on going into a fight carrying injuries. He learnt that he wasn't invincible, and responded by becoming wiser, in essence a better boxer who was then able to narrowly outpoint Froch.

 

lets not be silly, joe wasn't invinclible, nowhere near an rjj and if he wasn't fighting serial Myyeghans and instead replaced them with world class opponents, he'd have losses for sure.

there are plenty of americans who would have beat him BUT you have to really ask me about ones in the shallower late 90s/early 00s SMW division if you are considering Joe. I would appreciate you asking the appropriate question so as to disclude obvious looses for Joe like Jones, Toney, prime Hopkins etc.

 

Roy technically wasn't undefeated when he was knocked out, but I certainly think the KO losses took a lot of his confidence, and was never quite the same.

Also, he failed to beat every elite fighter he has faced since being knocked out.

 

Eubank has said more than once he didn't want any part of Roy. In a recent interview he said it would have been "suicide"

Of course Roy was aware Eubank was a threat, that doesn't mean he ducked him.