Serious question about PED use in boxing?

Correct.

At the top level, minus a couple sports entirely, literally ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ATHLETE is on some sort of banned PED.

 

Wasn't the point.
Boxing is dirtier than cycling and from earlier point of career.

Why not?

 

I don't see how you could ever combat the use of PEDs in sport. The use of drugs has almost become synonymous with Sports and modern athletes. It has been built on that foundation. And I also agree that it's a different matter from someone who runs the 100m sprint taking PEDs and boxing (or any combat sport), but the people who are in the positions to take action against this sort of thing are the people who benefit from it the most. The better an athlete performs, the more people pay attention, the more sponsors take note, the more viewers and coverage that sport gets, the more money people involved in that sport get. And at the end of the day it's all about the money.

 

:good

How much motivation do those who gain from PED use really have to police themselves?

Also, how can testing ever overcome the first-mover advantage that PED chemists have? You can't even know what to develop the test for, let alone create a practical one, until the substance is popular enough for you to get wind of it.

 

I don't know what he puts in his body. I don't pretend to.

But being the first athlete in the history of Earth, any sport, to pay for and volunteer himself for additional blood testing sure does make him less suspicious than anyone else...

Other then perhaps Nonito Donaire, who took it a step further. He became the first athlete in the history of the Earth to pay for and volunteer himself for additional blood testing 24/7/365 even when not in training. So, perhaps that makes him even less suspicious than Mayweather, but he would be the only one who is on those neutral, non-bias grounds. (although, Donaire has since ended his 24/7/365 testing agreement and now only subjects to additional tests when in training)

 

Good post.

We the consuming public (not in the business itself) won't know what most of these guys are currently taking for probably another decade. By the time those tests become efficient and finally mandated after years of delay, they will be on to the next...

 

Obviously.

It's the same for why "who is doing the testing" was such a big story during the Wladimir vs. Povetkin build up.

It's the same for why "lets do testing" claims by Pascal and Edwin to Hopkins and Ward, respectively, were controversial as they were made after the contracts were signed and both of the "accused" parties refused to oblige.

It's the same reason why Pacquiao had long said that he would never do testing outside of the commission, and then said he would require all of his opponents to test from now on using VADA because his team long claimed that USADA was a corrupt outfit, and then after using VADA for one fight against Rios claimed they were unhappy and used for the Bradley rematch a joint USADA-NSAC specialized and approved program (USADA has no approved labs in the Philippines, so testing couldn't begin for Pac until he reached the US) while Bradley was getting the full VADA testing treatment.

It's all sketchy "dot your I's and cross your T's" sort of stuff when it comes to ensuring testing won't backfire on you.

 

The key words are"pays for it".

If they are being paid for it they have more reasons to hide a possible positive test dont they? why kill the cash cow when they can keep the money flowing by letting him get away with it(if hes on something ).

And nobody and i mean nobody in sports get more tested than cyclists and many still get away with cheating so just cause your idol pays for being tested during a short period of time doesnt mean he isnt or hasnt cheat. IMO hes just as suspicious as any other top athlete no more no less.

 

You think Brook is too poor, stupid and unconnected to pass the tests that Olympic athletes pass?

Doesn't prevent them from using. No penalty does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldman's_dilemma

 

You tried to say I was OK with Porter juicing, I don't believe he's juicing but it wouldn't surprise me if he came up positive. No fighter should be allowed to juice and people claiming Porter was on it, mostly Brook fans, were looking for an excuse in case he lost. If I tell you I think you're looking for an excuse, THAT DOES NOT MEAN I CONDONE PED USE.

 

No I did not.

And your PED accusations were at an all-time high when the Porter fight was discussed.